Compact 1080p EFP cam

[David Diperstein]

Obin, Have you made any progress on this project? It's a fascinating idea.

[Obin Olson]

Now have an Epic...

Still too heavy. NEED SMALLER VERSION...

maybe try same thing with this version of RED camera?

ANyone know of a way to get the SENSOR and mount ONLY out into it's own shell/box for gyro shooting handheld light weight work?

[Patrick Tresch]

Isn't the Blackmagic kind of "sensor/mount only" camera?

Pat

[Jim Grieco]

ENG stands for Electronic News Gathering. EFP stands for Electronic Field Production. Both are usually used when referring to...on the fly/run and gun style shooting.

[Jake Wilganowski]

Yep I'd say blackmagic cam fits that description. Or these:
http://www.radiantimages.com/index.p...diant-images-2

[Hrvoje Simic]

This is a six year old thread.
Since a time kapsule has been opened, it might be interesting to check the current situation.

The requirements include:

• 2/3” to 1” sensor size range priority (due to picture quality/practicality compromise)
• essential I/O (SDI/HDMI, XLR in, headphone out)
• compact form factor
• 1080p minimum from properly scaled higher resolution single sensor or 3x1080p sensors
• raw recording or proper RGB codec (10bit 4:2:2 at minimum)
• practicality (physical handling, shooting/operation, workflow)
• sturdiness/build quality
• proper built-in adjustable monitor (preferrably 4-5” range)
• built in NDs
• can be held by its body and mounted on a tripod without any rigs
• having buttons and rotary knobs/dials
• essential quick access camera controls
• if shooting strictly RGB codec - white balance, custom gammas, gain, additional color tweaking preferrable
• body design not inherited from a device designed to be glued to the face for capturing one still frame

Candidates chosen by some of the factors from the list:

Sony PDW-200

Design approach - compact broadcast camera

+ 3x 1/2” sensors, camera controls, I/O, monitor placement, build quality, NDs, sturdiness
- size grown to slightly less practical, news gathering codec

Ikonoskop A-cam DII

Design approach - compact 16mm cinema camera

+ picture quality, recording quality, shutter and motion blur, build quality, size, I/O, sturdiness
- no monitor, no NDs, needs a rig, all-round usage practicality

BMCC

Design approach - affordable larger sensor high quality imaging

+ picture quality, recording quality, sensor size, compactness, monitor size, price
- MDS*, rolling shutter, field sturdiness, no NDs, needs a rig - and a tripod

Digital Bolex

Design approach - Bolex digital replacement

+ picture quality, recording quality, price, size, sturdiness
- MDS*, no NDs, “home video shaky cam” look built-in due to ergonomics, comes with a bell-bottoms & sideburns package

JVC GY-HMQ10

Design approach - multi-purpose concept

+ Picture resolution, temporal resolution, size, camera controls, shooting practicality, I/O, price,
- 1/2.3” sensor, thin codec, no NDs, workflow practicality

RED Scarlet 2/3”

Design approach - 16mm replacement

+ picture quality, recording quality, sturdiness, compact form factor
- ditched, else redundant



So...six years later, has the quest ended ?

No.



* MDS – Monitor Deviation Syndrome – started through a mutated gene from an offspring between a stills and a motion camera, which spread amongst many poor cameras around the world and mutated further. Most commonly manifests as inappropriate placement of the monitor on the camera body, making many shooting scenarios a challenge and camera left with the feeling of insufficiency to its shooter and tendencies of self shut-down. Some other manifestations include insufficient monitor size and monitor's fixed position. Treatment of the syndrome includes continous time spent on building rigs for additional monitors, energy spent on building patience and adapting the shooting to the camera’s issue and words of incouragement towards the camera regarding the issue.

[Gunleik Groven]

I see a lot of use of a 16mm'ish cam but preferably with 3k RAW capacity ike the original Scarlet. 3k for 3k was just "right"

But I and the manufactures do not seem to agree... :)

But honestly, if I was looking at "need" and not "drool", I'd much rather have taken a 2/3" smaller formfactor Scarlet at the moment, than a Dragon upgrade...

Hey... Wait... I may have answered my own (implied) question, right?

[Paramon Ivanovich]

But honestly, if I was looking at "need" and not "drool", I'd much rather have taken a 2/3" smaller formfactor Scarlet at the moment, than a Dragon upgrade...

you're not alone my friend, i'd take 2/3" Scarlet at any moment