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    Not giving Up Phil, but I still remain disappointed by the coverage, and with the new Wides coming abut will likely get worst... So I'll be hard at work to bring those FF Cine Lenses to reality once and for all, while still very curious to see the possibility of a RED Leica S mount, and see how those Leica S series Medium Format lenses perform on Dragon... ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    Hello all,

    Mid-July 2013 we set out to discover and learn about how lenses would cover the new Red Dragon sensor. We tested out the most commonly owned, most popular to rent, and most used focal lengths on used on all types of productions.


    Below you can find links to images summarizing the general coverage notes for each set:As more focal lengths, sets, and zooms are tested we will add to this list and update the graphics.

    This is the "simple" version of these tests and I have taken additional notes. If you have any questions regarding coverage and performance post them here and I'll do my best to answer your questions.

    Some of the basic notes on coverage that everybody should keep in mind:
    • Any lens designed for Full Frame 35mm or VistaVision formats cover Dragon at 6K
    • If you have a lens that covers Mysterium-X at 5K today you will cover Dragon at 5.5K safely
    • All lenses designed for Super 35mm will cover Dragon at 5K

    Feel free to share and use this information for whatever you'd like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSi View Post
    Not giving Up Phil, but I still remain disappointed by the coverage, and with the new Wides coming abut will likely get worst... So I'll be hard at work to bring those FF Cine Lenses to reality once and for all, while still very curious to see the possibility of a RED Leica S mount, and see how those Leica S series Medium Format lenses perform on Dragon... ;)
    I gave up on 18mm lenses long ago Ketch, never liked the lens distortion on any of them... 25mm on the 6k looks like a 21mm now. thats my new wide. :)
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    Phil,

    Thanks so much for this.

    Great stuff.

    An instant sticky really!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSi View Post
    Yeah Phil I hear you buddy, but for me Dragon is to shoot 6K all the way,)
    Hence why I opted for the Canon glass for the test. So i had 6k all the way .
    Not my favorite choice of lens for obvious reasons , but they work well optically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    Heh. There was a time when I spent "some coin" researching and developing a series of lenses. At some point that became me trying to drain the ocean with a spoon. Just didn't work out.

    Don't give up on those Leicas. They are going to produce some of the best material on Dragon.
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    Hence why I opted for the Canon glass for the test. So i had 6k all the way .
    Not my favorite choice of lens for obvious reasons , but they work well optically.

    And this is now the perfect time to bring to life my long time idle FF Cine Lens project...: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...15#post1238615


    Phil... Do you want in? No more "coin" at your end to spend buddy... ;)
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    Phil, might I make a SUGGESTION, what would-the-lens-look like at 6000 X 3000, would they vignette at the same place or would you get a lot more coverage than a 5.5 K frame! Just a question? It would be nice to test the “Leica Summilux-C Primes” and the “Zeiss Master Primes”! Or maybe that’s a job for the Red Camera company since they did say there is full 6K coverage in both lenses!

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    Hmm. Somebody went sniffing and attempting to correct my color work no less. Let me give you the actual photo:



    And a few beauty shots of other lenses in action.

    Here's a nice lens too :) Leica Summilux-C 21mm


    And this one is pin sharp wide open. Panavision Primo 40mm T1.9


    The 50mm T1.9 Red Pro Prime looks great on Dragon:


    I'm pretty partial to my set of Schneider Cine-Xenars too:
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    Can we get a list of the cheap lenses that do cover going?

    CP2s?

    CP2 super speeds?

    Xenon Full Frames?

    Canon Cine?

    and do all the focal lengths cover for all the above options?

    There are options out there that should cover that aren't all DSLR glass (and all the mechanical issues associated with their usage)... I am just getting ready to invest in glass after my Epic and Dragon upgrades and I'd like to verify for those looking to purchase full frame entry level cinema glass what our best options are... Thanks
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