REDCINE and GPU = co-work?

[Martin Jäger]

hej!

is redcine taking advantage of the GPU? if yes - what graphics-card makes
most sense? personally i'm interested in a mac-compatible model...

[Bruce Allen]

Smartin, what I think would make sense is to wait until RedCine is released, then buy the card. Graphics cards double in speed every year.

Macs are a whole generation behind at present - they don't have the nvidia 8000 series yet. Also, if they decided to make the code heavily GPU-oriented, you'd want SLI. Which Macs also don't offer yet. Buying a GPU for a Mac is like shooting yourself in the foot right now. Actually, it has historically been this way (they are often a generation behind), however the people who swallow the rest of the Reality Distortion Field believe they are "faster for graphics"...

I say this as a guy who uses Macs on a daily basis. I like them very much in fact. I even look forward to buying one once for myself one day - preferably when they catch up to what a year-old PC can do, GPU-wise!

Bruce

[Hrvoje Simic]

Bruce, do you think it's reasonable to expect 8800 GTX in new 8 core Mac Pro ?
I would really like to see that option.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Bruce, do you think it's reasonable to expect 8800 GTX in new 8 core Mac Pro ?
I would really like to see that option.

Apple would be slitting their own throat to not offer the 8800GTX and upcoming 89x0 models in the (hopefully soon to be updated) Mac Pro line.

I prefer OSX over Windows and it's my platform of choice for doing most things, but when it comes to performance graphics -- be it games or 3D visualization, the Mac is a generation (or even two) behind most of the time as Bruce said.

I plan to buy a new 8-core Mac Pro later this year. Hopefully they will offer SLI style multi-video-card configurations and I'll take mine with dual nVidia 8950GTX cards, thank you very much.

[Gunleik Groven]

Yes

Especially if FCP, and Shake('s followup) would start engaging all that horsepower.

I actually just ordered a mini to take care of some renderingtasks, because I want to hold off on a tower untill the octocore is out.

What a laugh!

Gunleik

[Zach Hilton]

hej!

is redcine taking advantage of the GPU? if yes - what graphics-card makes
most sense? personally i'm interested in a mac-compatible model...

I asked a similar question recently. http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1010 Mr. Rob said that we'll find that out at or after NAB.

[Sanjin Jukic]

Smartin, what I think would make sense is to wait until RedCine is released, then buy the card. Graphics cards double in speed every year.

Macs are a whole generation behind at present - they don't have the nvidia 8000 series yet. Also, if they decided to make the code heavily GPU-oriented, you'd want SLI. Which Macs also don't offer yet. Buying a GPU for a Mac is like shooting yourself in the foot right now. Actually, it has historically been this way (they are often a generation behind), however the people who swallow the rest of the Reality Distortion Field believe they are "faster for graphics"...

I say this as a guy who uses Macs on a daily basis. I like them very much in fact. I even look forward to buying one once for myself one day - preferably when they catch up to what a year-old PC can do, GPU-wise!

Bruce

Bruce, it looks you are pretty outdated with yours Mac state opinion. Mac is on Intel more than year and Macintosh is really looking to get the best from that CPU-GPU hardware platform. I think you are still believe in all that "foggy" high-end PC propaganda. There are really many options but not any works well as advertised. To conclude is to say everybody want to make money with a fog on Windows platform as we all know well. And they are all rich and fat, Ballmer, Gates, etc... With the Mac is a bit opposite. It works as advertised. And also they want to make money. So keep in mind that before you talk Mac, Bruce!

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Bruce, it looks you are pretty outdated with yours Mac state opinion. Mac is on Intel more than year and Macintosh is really looking to get the best from that CPU-GPU hardware platform. I think you are still believe in all that "foggy" high-end PC propaganda. There are really many options but not any works well as advertised. To conclude is to say everybody want to make money with a fog on Windows platform as we all know well. And they are all rich and fat, Ballmer, Gates, etc... With the Mac is a bit opposite. It works as advertised. And also they want to make money. So keep in mind that before you talk Mac, Bruce!

You're drinking too much Apple kool-aid. Sorry. Currently the two best graphics options available to the Mac platform are the ancient, nVidia FX4500 and the ATI X1900XT. The X1900XT in PC land is an upper-mid range card.

On the Mac there is no SLI or CrossFire graphics configurations, let alone even single card options in line with the upper end of PC options. This has nothing to do with "foggy high-end PC propaganda". There are several solutions in the PC world that are nowhere close to the top end of the spectrum that will outperform the offerings from Apple. And let's not bring Microsoft, Gates, Balmer, etc.. into the equation. This has little to do with the overall hardware picture in terms of graphics cards. All of which, especially on the nVidia side of the fence are fully supported under Linux.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Apple systems. But a properly configured and cared for PC is every bit as stable and productive and also "works as advertised". But this isn't a discussion about platform reliability or productivity in general. This is about graphics card options and what GPU is available on which platform... Right now the Mac is way behind and it has been this way for a few years. Apple has the power to change this on a whim, anytime they wish, but they don't.

SLI/Crossfire configurations not considered, where are current upper mid range offerings we see in the PC world? No nVidia 8xxx cards, no ATI X1950XT, ...Not even the X1900XTXi, only the 'XT. And Apple also has their model underclocked by 150MHz vs. the same card from other PC vendors... Why?

[Gunleik Groven]

Have to agree here, even with 7 macs and 1 PC in house.


Gunleik

[Martin Jäger]

i assume one reason could be that apple want's to keep their reputation of "it just works" - so might be that they are just carefull with choosing their components.. well i changed to apple 12 years ago and i'm far away from changing back to wintel - that's why i really hope for either a new compositing software from apple or a mac version of fusion.. unless after-effects 8.0 will change alot.. and i'm willing to take a step back in GPU performance just because i know the hassle you can have with wintel machies (or let's say no-name macs ;) )