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    Quote Originally Posted by ibloom View Post
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    "Finishing a movie on the Quake engine..."

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    Hi laguun

    Let's forget about Scratch is the only one that supports R3D, let's ASSUME that it doesn't have R3D support. And obviously price isn't a problem for you.

    Scratch can't display 4K, that's the limitation, alright. By assuming that and comparing 4K RT RGB from Scratch vs other products. How do you think of its performance, Color grading feature, plugins, reconform feature, workflow, etc. Is other product better or Scratch better ? Again, let's take a point from 4K RGB performance and not including R3D format.

    Iridas 2K is only 2K and it isn't 4K. What product of Iridas that support 4K (not 8K) ? From price point, what kind of product that you think is on the same level with Scratch and better.

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    I think this is the one.

    http://www.dvs.de/Brochures/DVS_DI_Team.pdf
    and this one
    http://www.filmlight.ltd.uk/products/baselight

    High performance
    Real-time effects up to 4K RGB file sequences
    Multiple video formats with real-time converting
    Real-time JPEG2000 conversion
    Internal RAID-5 protected high data rate storage

    High quality:
    Real uncompressed video up to 4K RGB 16 bit
    Real-time effects in 16 bit
    Original native content is directly used for real-time processing


    Though I don't know how much it is. Can't find any prices again.
    Lagun, do you know the price of CLIPSTER complete system?

    http://www.dvs.de/english/products/i.../clipster.html


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    Though I don't know how much it is. Can't find any prices again.
    Lagun, do you know the price of CLIPSTER complete system?
    LOL. You guys. I'm sure DVS, just as Assimilate, would love their prices to be (mis)quoted on reduser...

    EDIT: Actually, I have to comment a bit on this - I have bit my tongue for months.
    Laguun has stated ad nauseum his attitude towards Assimilate pricing policy.
    Now you couldn't find prices on DVS or Baselight. Now try Autodesk systems. Same there. Iridas has the price for SpeedGrade HD on their website but not for SpeedGrade DI. That's not so uncommon as some people want it to be.
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    The last quote we got for a DVS Clipster 4k was about $130k
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    If you ship him out to NAB this year, I will put some beers in him ;)

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    Just as a point of information:

    DVS clipster does realtime uncompressed 4K it's true.
    But this is 4K RGB completely uncompressed.
    Not 4K Compressed Redcode Bayer Raw.

    So regardless of the specifics of Scratch, a much less hardware dependent system. There is no realtime 4K Redcode system in existence... AFAIK... YET.

    IBloom
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    Luki - I assume Gerk will there correct?
    Oh yes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibloom View Post
    Just as a point of information:

    DVS clipster does realtime uncompressed 4K it's true.
    But this is 4K RGB completely uncompressed.
    Not 4K Compressed Redcode Bayer Raw.

    So regardless of the specifics of Scratch, a much less hardware dependent system. There is no realtime 4K Redcode system in existence... AFAIK... YET.

    IBloom

    Don’t they support CineForm that is a RAW compressed?
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