Shoulder tripod shoulder tripod shoulder tripod etc etc etc.

[tj williams]

A nice solution for the RED camera in the ENG camera-persons world already exists and is arguably the best part of a Sony/Panasonic camera.

Of course I'm talking about the Sony Quick release plate. Also made and used by other camera mfgs. so probably not a patented design.

For those not familiar with the design here is a picture:
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This plate mounts to the Fluid head wedge plate very solidly. It mounts to at least two 3/8 16 or 1/4 20 camera mounting bolts. There are a line of threaded holes underneath, allowing the SQRP to be mounted to the tripod wedge plate directly below the center of weight of the camera. The camera has a machined part which enters the SQRP receiver. Replacing the camera, just slides forward and click locks into place back on the tripod. The locking lever immediately frees the camera for shoulder use. When locked shut the red button must be depressed before you can pull the lever out to disengage the camera. It is therefore very difficult to accidently disengage.

I own several of these for my current HD camera. I pre-mount one on the tripod one on the Steadicam and one on the Crane or Dolly even in a production environment the speed increase over the typical Cine method is worth having in ENG type work it is essential.

It is a very familier piece to working press, and most Broadcast level video producers.

I'd encourage RED Team to develop a compatable mounting system as an option on the bottom of the red. ENG users will already have a lot of these plates

[Michael Schrengohst]

I went through many of those plates. They always got loose
and pieces fell off. And I saw a rookie once who thought he
had secured the camera on the plate when he had only
had the back locked down...I caught the camera before it
hit the deck.
I encourage RED to design a better plate that does not fall apart.

[Scott Webster]

TJ, if you get the chance check out the Chrosziel 401-120.



They are expensive but they are far superior to the Sony quick release plate.

[tj williams]

red n rocket. Yes the Chrosziel is superior, and as I remember compatable with the Sony camera bottom lock. I'm only suggesting the Sony plate because it is common, there are a lot out there so expense is low, and they are pretty cheap to buy used. If RED designed their own I'd probably buy it. It took Sony 3 versions to get the current one, so making one that is as good as Chrosziel is difficult. ps the heavy rod system is interesting but I prefer the Chrosziel light weight support...

Redguy.. Aren't the parts falling off the spring lock failures more part of the model 1 and 2 plates, especially the early one with the latch ear straight out? I also once had an early one's latch fail, with an ensuing camera drop. The new one seem pretty foolproof... but hey enough of a fool can drop anything...

My main point here is simply to bring up the need for a quick release system that allows the camera to balance over the shoulder pad and the tripod centers. Do you guys favor that???

[Scott Webster]

As the standard quick release plate is so universal I would expect Red to have factored it into the design for tripod mounting.

It would be a disadvantage if you have to physically screw in a tripod plate to the base of the camera, which is what we had to do with the Arri 19mm system. The Chrosziel allows you to go from 19mm to handheld in seconds.

[Gopher77]

We just got Zcuto's at school and man are they nice!

[Anders Holck]

Some oldies but goodies:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=483

Did I mention I hate the VCT-U14 system? :-)

[Scott Webster]

Based on the latest photo http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1152 the base is flat without the normal forward dove tail and rear connection. In the photo its mounted directly to an Arri 19mm rod plate. I assume it would be easy enough to provide a forward dove tail mount and rear connection that is compatible with the Sony quick release plate.

[Dominic Jones]

# RED RAIL™ base package

* Plate / Magazine Cradle
* Universal Mounting Bracket
* 8" Rod (3)
* Grip Handle
* Base Plate
* Shoulder pad / tripod plate adaptor
* Top Bracket
* Top Handle

I am assuming that means a system similar to the one that you're describing is in development.

I agree, it's a very important feature, not just for EFP/ENG work.

[Dominic Jones]

Based on the latest photo http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1152 the base is flat without the normal forward dove tail and rear connection. In the photo its mounted directly to an Arri 19mm rod plate. I assume it would be easy enough to provide a forward dove tail mount and rear connection that is compatible with the Sony quick release plate.

Remember that those are prototype units and there's a lot that will be different from those to shipping units. They're just bolted straight onto rod baseplates for ease of setup...