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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Marshall View Post
    Though trying to use a UI at 30Hz all the time kinda sucks.

    There's also no X79 boards with Thunderbolt, so unfortunately you can't have it all on Windows - gotta choose between big guns and thunderbolt.
    X99 is a month or so away....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    seconds... not minutes :)
    So 10X24 = 240 seconds per second of video.
    240x60 = 14400 seconds per minutes of video

    Let's say a 3 minute video (music video, fashion video…)

    43 200 seconds. That's 720 minutes or 12 hours. Worth it for a final render, me thinks.

    On a 30 second spot it's just 2 hours (very, very worth it - no brainer)

    Unless that 10 second estimate is based on a system way beyond what we can afford to keep here.
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    I would guess one part of the reason that the ADD decode takes so long is that it is looking at previous and subsequent frames to provide the algorithm with more comparative data. Presumably the algorithm would make better processed pixels if it had better "intel" on what is real detail and what is noise. Another poster suggested a more sophisticated Bayer offset correction, which I find plausible.

    I love the idea of "invisible" bits that can be leveraged for more precise code values. I wonder if there is a way to use these "invisible" bits to beef up the portion of the linear scale that gets shortchanged by the math?

    Fun stuff!

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    Great news - looking forward to the OLPF upgrade and ADD.

    Jarred - any update on Dragon Color....?
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    Thanks for the update Jarred, I'm always one to shoot at the lowest compression possible so ADD will be a great addition to the already spectacular images.
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    Look,

    we all know there is a shitload of data packed into an r3d.

    What just happened is what has always happened and will continue to happen: The pixel fairies just found another way to extract more from the container.

    This, my friends, bodes very well for the future of the R3D file format!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Ruffo New View Post
    So 10X24 = 240 seconds per second of video.
    240x60 = 14400 seconds per minutes of video

    Let's say a 3 minute video (music video, fashion video…)

    43 200 seconds. That's 720 minutes or 12 hours. Worth it for a final render, me thinks.

    On a 30 second spot it's just 2 hours (very, very worth it - no brainer)

    Unless that 10 second estimate is based on a system way beyond what we can afford to keep here.
    Just for reference, about 10 seconds on a fast PC tower. About 30 seconds per frame on a new mac book pro. A.D.D. is really "intended" for the stills guys, but as always, I am sure there are some motion misfits out there that will put it to good use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    Just for reference, about 10 seconds on a fast PC tower. About 30 seconds per frame on a new mac book pro. A.D.D. is really "intended" for the stills guys, but as always, I am sure there are some motion misfits out there that will put it to good use.
    Is ADD going into the SDK or is it RCX exlusive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    Just for reference, about 10 seconds on a fast PC tower. About 30 seconds per frame on a new mac book pro. A.D.D. is really "intended" for the stills guys, but as always, I am sure there are some motion misfits out there that will put it to good use.
    Our tower is about 30% under fastest 720 you can buy - so we should be fine (or we could always do some render-farming). The me the notion of "best" is worth a lot. :-)

    I also can't help but ask: New Redcode compression scheme under Dragon uses new algorithms? My guess is yes - no way it does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    Just for reference, about 10 seconds on a fast PC tower. About 30 seconds per frame on a new mac book pro. A.D.D. is really "intended" for the stills guys, but as always, I am sure there are some motion misfits out there that will put it to good use.

    Hmm, I'm coming from the VFX part of the planet and in our neck of the woods we usually talk about "how many minutes per frame" the render will take. I usually yell at the guys if they pump up the quality so the renders takes more than 30 min / frame for their 3D work.... So if it's about seconds I think the ADD stuff will be pretty much common practice. LOL.

    But to speed things up maybe you should develop a little network render thing for ADD in RCXP, just let a que manager spread out the clips to render on all machines in house or such.
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