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03-21-2007, 02:32 PM
Originally Posted by Jay A. Kelley
Hello pixels my old friend,
I've come to film with you again.
Because my panasonic is beeping;
Left a red-x while I was sleeping.
And the vision, that was planted in my brain,
Still remains
Within the sound, of CrO2.
In restless dreams I filmed along;
Jim Jannard's got it bass-ack wrong.
Fish-erPrice true-ly set-me a-gape,
When they put my videe oh on-c'ss'tte tape.
Am I brill-ee-ant or a pah-thetic goo-oober?
Toysumer.
To record the sound,
of vision.
03-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Gibby,
I'm sure you've tracked the camera better than I have so I'm sure you're right. I was just offering my opinion based on what I've seen and read, that's all. The specs ,the accessories, lens mount, the sensor size, digital negative, workflow, etc... are all from Cinema standards, not ENG standards, so it seemed/seems to me that Cinema was their primary goal. Also, I'm not an EFP/ENG guy so I'm not really that aware of that market and so I'm sure that I've just been viewing the camera from another perspective. I know that they intended for it to be scalable for all types of production and that there is a B4 mount option and all of that, but I didn't realize that that was one of their primary goals from the outset. I thought that it was just a nice little (or big for the EFP market) bonus. As I said before, though, I think it's great/amazing that it's that versatile that it can be used for both. Imagine trying to use a Panavision for ENG. Anyway, I just wanted to be clear, as I tried to do in my last post, that I was just offering an opinion, or possible suggestion, as to why certain EFP features are not standard while cinema standards are. But, I'm happy to be wrong.
03-21-2007, 07:31 PM
Wouldn't REDCINE take care of down conversion pretty well, though? Wavelet compression should be pretty clean at 1080, 720, or SD.
03-21-2007, 07:37 PM
That is FANTASTIC. Lakeview, you know us too well....
Oh - and if I can deliver SD goods to client thru RedCine fast enough to make tham happy - I sure as heck will. DV25/50 QTs indeed seem just about right, especially on a cheap external drive the client can plug right into their editing setup...
SD is about 25% of my work so that's not why I'm getting a Red. But if it's possible RED should support it. Options are everything.
03-21-2007, 10:05 PM
After all Lakeview all of our visions are really pixel...
wonderful lyrics don't ever make only the sound of silence...
DAn and you are still talking about RED cine downconverts. the problem may be rendering time. No one yet knows, the time to render out a days shoot of eng maybe 2+ hours of material. Time constraints on SD producers are big time. If we can deliver right off the drive even send the drive home with them that night if they are local. With the SD right there to edit. we will def. get more jobs...This should still richen the image thru oversampling making stunning SD...such as it is...
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