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[Many Moosh]

Bluestar,

Your right, if you have the Red One camera already, there's no denying that interchangable lenses make sense. You can use your existing lenses with scarlet. But lets look at who this camera is targeted for, it's not targeted for the pro guys, thats what Epic and Red are for. This camera is for the DVX crowd. Now how many guys do you know from that group that have friends that they can borrow pro glass from, or can afford to buy or even rent pro glass. Very few.The Red Team are not idiots. They priced the scarlet ($3000.00) for a targeted crowd, and again that crowd can't get near pro glass

[Mike Bozulich]

See this thread:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11786

Hey Tom, gonna call Jim a "f*cking noob" too?

[Nik Manning]

Yes this is for the DVX/HVX crowd. This will really eat into there market share.

[Matt Setnes]

Manning. I think the big question is whether Red is targeting the filmmaker or the DP.

[Many Moosh]

Hey Ameer Alley,

I never claimed to be anyones finical adviser.

Do some research and you'll quickly discover that pro glass is out of the reach of most indie film makers. If you sign up for an account with Pro IMDB, you'll find (in they're independent film section) that the budget for most indie films is the cost of a set of good pro glass. In other words, 80% of indie films can't afford pro glass. And since this camera is targeted towards the indie crowd, adding feature that is never gonna get used, but only raise the cost, is ridiculous.

[Ameer Azari]

perhaps they can give us a better lens

[Many Moosh]

Hey Ameer,

I second that. A better fixed lens will do more good for the indie crowd then a interchangeable lens anyday.

[Matt Setnes]

To everyone: I think the big question is whether Red is targeting the filmmaker or the DP.

You guys keep saying the target is the DVX crowd, etc. Truth is, it's been a day and no one knows who the target is. If it is aimed at the prosumer level, then they're on the right path and I'm sure panny and sony are shaking in their boots as they know Jim is now capable of anything. I would think removing the fixed lens and creating a whole new line of lenses for scarlet would offer a larger advantage in the market and more profit than the low 3,000 they're aiming for. Just sayin'

[Many Moosh]

Hey Bluestar,

True, its too early to know who the scarlet is target for. But from the facts we have so far, its a safe bet to say that scarlet is targeted towards the indie filmmaker. First the price point, secondly the fixed lens, thirdly the DP's already have Red and now Epic. Given these facts I would safely bet that scarlet is for the dvx indie crowd. And we already know that the dvx crowd could never afford pro glass. So asking for a feature like interchangeable lenses only gonna raise cost.

[brandon herman]

Hey Ameer,

I second that. A better fixed lens will do more good for the indie crowd then a interchangeable lens anyday.

Guys, better than what? It sounds like you're already criticizing the glass quality.:waaa:

it was announced 15 hours ago. there's a prototype in a glass box.

Does someone have inside info that the glass they are using is not awesome?

I'm certain that whatever they are using is of an amazing quality.