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    Regarding the modes:
    6K FF: 12 fps
    5K FF: 48
    4K FF: 60
    3K FF: 75
    2K FF: 120

    Are these modes really FF or is it like the old days with crop factor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulrik Ahlefeldt View Post
    Regarding the modes:
    6K FF: 12 fps
    5K FF: 48
    4K FF: 60
    3K FF: 75
    2K FF: 120

    Are these modes really FF or is it like the old days with crop factor?

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    5K FF is cropped in from 6K FF, yes. Just like Scarlet 4K was cropped in on Epic 5K.
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    I am super excited!!

    OK, a few questions after reading all the posts.

    The biggest factor for me will be time. Does anyone know when the upgrade program will come to an end?

    Are the frame rates listed "burst mode", or are they the normal continuous frame rates? I am a little confused about everything. (Either way EXCITED!)

    I love the Scarlet with the MX sensor, I cannot wait until I can afford to upgrade and take the next step. I just recently shot some helicopter footage with a Nikon D4 wishing I would have had my Scarlet running HDRx, then in the back of my mind envying the Dragon owners. I have rarely "broke" the MX sensors dynamic range, but I have a couple times. (Usually in aircraft.) With the increased frame rate and the dynamic range and the low light noise level I have to say who would not want this camera. Granted, the Epic will always be a better camera, but for the price, the Scarlet Dragon is the camera to beat. (The Scarlet Dragon vs. the Alexa anyone?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Morrison View Post
    5K FF is cropped in from 6K FF, yes. Just like Scarlet 4K was cropped in on Epic 5K.
    I understand, but is it still crop factor:
    5K = 1.3
    4K = 1.62
    3K = 2.17
    2K = 3.25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulrik Ahlefeldt View Post
    I understand, but is it still crop factor:
    5K = 1.3
    4K = 1.62
    3K = 2.17
    2K = 3.25

    ?

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    Compared to FULL FRAME, Dragon Scarlet @5K has bit wider FOV than MX Scarlet @4K, but still tighter than Epic MX 5K.

    To get the 1.3 crop on Dragon, you'd need to be at 5.5K on an Epic Dragon.

    Dragon 6K is even wider FOV than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Morrison View Post
    My understanding is crop factor of Dragon Scarlet (5K) is same as Scarlet MX (4K) - so in the 1.6 range, yes.

    To get the 1.3 crop on Dragon, you'd need to be at 5.5K on an Epic Dragon.

    Dragon 6K is even wider FOV than that.

    Ok, thanks, then the Epic is still the one for me with the price and high frame rates in mind ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulrik Ahlefeldt View Post
    I understand, but is it still crop factor:
    5K = 1.3
    4K = 1.62
    3K = 2.17
    2K = 3.25

    ?

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    Ulrik
    Crop factor is a very relative term. You always need what you refer it to. I assume you mean FF 35 still camera format?
    This tool will nonetheless answer all your questions, you just have to dial in what your reference frame is, first.
    http://www.red.com/tools/crop-factor

    And yes, Scarlet and Dragon have the same sensor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulrik Ahlefeldt View Post
    I understand, but is it still crop factor:
    5K = 1.3
    4K = 1.62
    3K = 2.17
    2K = 3.25

    ?

    Thanks

    Ulrik
    Yes, the sensor is cropped more and more as you change the resolution from 6KFF -> 5K FF -> 4K FF -> ...
    It seems that the FF reference confuses you?

    Consider FF just as a reference of the horizontal/vertical picture ratio. In RED terminology FF represents picture ratio of 6144 (h) x 3160 (v) = 1,94:1 ratio
    RED FF format doesn't mean the "known" FF from DSLR's.

    Anyway 5K FF doesn't mean that picture is recorded in the FF size and then scaled to 5K. With 5K FF you will get a smaller field of view then with 6K FF.
    Same way 5K HD means a reference to the picture aspect ratio of 16:9 or 1,77 :1

    Also 6K FF on RED has a smaller field of view then FF DSLR.
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