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    Given the same 4K UHD source clip of 175 frames (@24fps), the resulting file sizes for the different ProRes/DNxHR flavors at 4H UHD are as follows:

    ProRes 422 HQ.................689 MB
    ProRes 444......................932 MB
    ProRes 444 XQ.................1.36 GB
    DNxHR 422 HQ (10 bit).....637 MB
    DNxHR 444......................1.28 GB

    So they seem to be in line or slightly smaller than ProRes in certain cases with the advantage of being able to read and write on both OS X and Win platforms.
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    Also, the codec can create any XY combination up to 8K, it's just the project types that are defined in 8.3. NAB showed custom project types being available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelP View Post
    Given the same 4K UHD source clip of 175 frames (@24fps), the resulting file sizes for the different ProRes/DNxHR flavors at 4H UHD are as follows:

    ProRes 422 HQ.................689 MB
    ProRes 444......................932 MB
    ProRes 444 XQ.................1.36 GB
    DNxHR 422 HQ (10 bit).....637 MB
    DNxHR 444......................1.28 GB

    So they seem to be in line or slightly smaller than ProRes in certain cases with the advantage of being able to read and write on both OS X and Win platforms.


    This is why I don't understand the oversaturated love for ProRes in the industry. I love the best tool for the job but mac lovers have defined the industry to the extent of cameras using ProRes instead of DNxHD. If camera developers could ditch ProRes and go DNxHD/DNxHR then we might even see a faster tuning of the codec with more updates that improve the codec instead of these long term jumps.
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    DNxHD license comes with a yearly license fee from Avid which probably makes camera manufacturers take pause. Especially if they don't have to pay for ProRes. For example, on the ARRI Alexa, ProRes comes with it, but DNxHD is a $5K option. And seeing as Media Composer uses both ProRes and DNxHD as managed (native MXF wrapped) from a camera perspective, you can see why ProRes might be preferred. Also, they need to serve other NLE's where DNxHD may or not be that will integrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelP View Post
    Given the same 4K UHD source clip of 175 frames (@24fps), the resulting file sizes for the different ProRes/DNxHR flavors at 4H UHD are as follows:

    ProRes 422 HQ.................689 MB
    ProRes 444......................932 MB
    ProRes 444 XQ.................1.36 GB
    DNxHR 422 HQ (10 bit).....637 MB
    DNxHR 444......................1.28 GB

    So they seem to be in line or slightly smaller than ProRes in certain cases with the advantage of being able to read and write on both OS X and Win platforms.

    ....which is why 8K is such a good idea!
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