Wich zoom for RED

[samuel33]

I don't have the money to buy 35 prime lens and I want to buy a zoom at first.
Any advice? (still camera lens and 35 zoom lens)

[Akcelik]

Nikkor AFS 17-35mm constant aperture F2.8

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=66640

[samuel33]

thanx dude

[Sanjin Jukic]

Nikkor AF-S 17-35mm f/2.8 D IF-ED Review
Quick Test Report by by Klaus Schroiff,
he is a German and have look at the precision of his test at
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...5_28/index.htm

[Stephen Williams]

I don't have the money to buy 35 prime lens and I want to buy a zoom at first.
Any advice? (still camera lens and 35 zoom lens)

Hi Samuel,

I would look closely at a Cooke 20-100 T3.1 or a Cooke 20-60 T3.1, they both cost in the region of $30,000 when new, today available for less than $3000 on Ebay.

Stephen

[Jeff Kilgroe]

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[Jeff Kilgroe]

Hi Samuel,

I would look closely at a Cooke 20-100 T3.1 or a Cooke 20-60 T3.1, they both cost in the region of $30,000 when new, today available for less than $3000 on Ebay.

Stephen

Well there's a Cooke 18-100 F3 zoom lens on there right now. Looks like a really nice lens. Not sure if the $9500 starting bid is that attractive, but nice lens. I think I'll wait and see what the lenses from RED can do before I cough up that much on a pre-owned Cooke. OTOH, I would probably consider it if I already had RED in hand, but with my RED still a long ways off (don't even have my reservation yet), I'll keep waiting. :)

[Stephen Williams]

Well there's a Cooke 18-100 F3 zoom lens on there right now. Looks like a really nice lens. Not sure if the $9500 starting bid is that attractive, but nice lens. I think I'll wait and see what the lenses from RED can do before I cough up that much on a pre-owned Cooke. OTOH, I would probably consider it if I already had RED in hand, but with my RED still a long ways off (don't even have my reservation yet), I'll keep waiting. :)

Hi,

The 18-100 T3 is the current version of the original 20-100 T3.1. They usually sell for big money. FWIW you can part exchange a 20-100 to Cooke, as some of the internal lenses are reused in the latest version today. (The lens was launched in 1971). At that time it was sharper, and breathed less than any prime lens. Stanley K owned one, he used it on all his films from 'The Shining' to 'Eyes Wide Shut'.

Stephen

Edit The one on Ebay is not the latest version mechanically & looks identical to the Cooke 20-100. Cooke did make various versions including a 14-70mm (with a huge front element)

[beatniq]

Well there's a Cooke 18-100 F3 zoom lens on there right now. Looks like a really nice lens. Not sure if the $9500 starting bid is that attractive, but nice lens. I think I'll wait and see what the lenses from RED can do before I cough up that much on a pre-owned Cooke. OTOH, I would probably consider it if I already had RED in hand, but with my RED still a long ways off (don't even have my reservation yet), I'll keep waiting. :)

Which lens do you think will be suitable for ENG/EFP use?

[Matt Uhry]

No 35mm format Cooke is at all suitable for ENG work. IF you just have to shoot in that style look at the optar 25-80 t3 or converted 28-70's t3. Seems like you'll be better off with a super 16mm lens using the cropped sensor format.

The cooke 18-100 and 20-100 are nice lenses. These were my favorite non Panavision zoom lenses in that range until the Optimo 17-80 T2.2 ( which costs $57K ) I have yet to use the Zeiss 16-110 monster in real life ( Cinegear does not count! ). One has to wonder if Cooke is working on a new version that has a much faster aperature to go with the rocking 15-40 T2 Cxx ?

Back to the Cooke 5:1's
It's quite a big lens, probably best to forget about doing much handheld...
In good tune it approaches prime lens sharpness, and lack of optical defects.
they focus very close, very minimal breathing...
Low Distortion. Decent contrast ( better on the 18-100 )

The 20-60 is a bit smaller, but still a large lens. I think I would miss the long end...

With any used zoom it would be a good idea to have a lens tech check it out for you before you buy... If you have to rebuild the lens it won't seem like that good a deal any more.

And of course we are all eager to find out what the Red 18-85 Zoom is going to be all about...

If you have projects to shoot right when you get your camera and buying is going to be in some way better than renting go for it !

Matt Uhry
www.fuzby.com