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    Red Leader Jannard's Avatar
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    Canon on top.
    RED on the bottom.

    Some observations.

    1. The Canon file is almost ten times as big at capture. It SHOULD be better!

    2. While Canon has done an excellent good job at color, my opinion is that they "help" a bit too much with processing. The saturation is "significant" (for my taste) when you open the RAW file. RED errs on the side of natural saturation and lets you add as needed. I had to add a TON of saturation to the RED image to get it close.

    3. Canon does in-camera sharpening... for better or worse.

    4. Canon does a great job overall. Give them credit. They have been at this a long time and it shows. We have been at this "since yesterday". I am very proud of the images RED makes and think it can only improve as time goes on. Just like it has from yesterday to today.

    I personally prefer the more organic look of RED. The differences in these two cameras is by design and not accident. Even the file size has a purpose.

    Thanks to all for playing. I am comfortable that we are in the "Big League" now. We are still rookies. Not for long...

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    Thanks Jim.
    "There is no point in having sharp images when you've fuzzy ideas."
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    Dynamic range is, after all, the measurement between well saturation (photosite blowout) and noise floor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    We are still rookies.
    Jim
    But rookies with a lot of RAW talent. :)
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    Nailed it. Now how about that iPhone ad? Am I 2 for 2?

    Very impressive stuff.
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    well I am real happy to here that the bottom was Red, what I saw was maybe
    jpeg artifacts but if you zoom to 500 percent and compare both on the handle there is more noise in the blacks on the Canon pic, which does not make sense since its a huge file.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    I personally prefer the more organic look of RED.
    Jim
    That's the one thing about the RED that I really, really like. Hope it stays that way.

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    Canon on top.
    3. Canon does in-camera sharpening... for better or worse.
    Jim
    I thought you said you turned sharpening off. Does this mean there's some in camera sharpening with Canon cameras even when shooting RAW and turning the sharpening to 0 in Adobe RAW?

    Either way, it's pretty darn impressive that we can get this sort of quality out of a motion picture camera that rivals or comes close to a still camera. At 24fps the perceived resolution becomes a lot more than staring at a still frame.
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    Since you posted this before I could post my answer... I was picking the RED on Bottom, but not because of color or resolution, etc. My logic for RED on bottom... 200mm lens on the Canon with a slightly smaller imaging size (~1.4 on the magnification factor). 150mm lens on the Red, w/ no magnification. Image A was shot at a longer focal length than B. Means A was shot on Canon, B was shot on RED.

    I didn't really know, but that was the basis for my reasoning. In any case. It was definitely a cool exercise, an exciting the see how close that comparison actually is. Kudo's Jim!
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    Geeeze...i was wrong!

    I thought the best colors were coming from the DSLR...but #2 is the RED, and it has cleaner colors...!!!

    Bravo à toute l'équipe!!! Superbe travail.

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    RED was great before built 16, RED will give us some extras with built 16, I am very impressed, what you are able to take of from this Mysterium thing. Thanks guys for squeezing everything out of the box, what is possible.
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