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  1. #1 Ursa Mini Disclaimer 
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    Ouch. Found this on the LensRentals website about the Ursa 4.6k -

    WARNING:
    We cannot recommend this product for professional work. We reached this decision after repeated failures in the field, experienced both first-hand by LR-folks and second-hand via rental clients. Though it might work much of the time, it is our opinion that this product’s performance is too unpredictable to be trusted on high-value projects. Use for casual testing or try-before-you-buy purposes only.

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    Haven't tried it personally but heard some about crappy SSD's and stuff. It's really ashame because I love the image that the URSA pumps out.

    Good cameras take time like wine ... and ravens ;)
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    Some earlier discussion here as well:

    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...rn-good/page12
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    I still don't know why people buy cameras from BM, given the track record of poorly designed, under featured and just plain bad cameras.
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    Ouch...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Carr View Post
    I still don't know why people buy cameras from BM, given the track record of poorly designed, under featured and just plain bad cameras.
    I think they had (maybe still) the best professional features for the price.
    Also Kinefinity had lot's of problems too.

    To me the Raven and Scarlet-W are a true gifts to professional filmmakers. Reliability, Customer Service, Features, Image. You can swap all these words. <3 :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Carr View Post
    I still don't know why people buy cameras from BM, given the track record of poorly designed, under featured and just plain bad cameras.
    Low price. Sucker punches people every time.

    UM4K/46.K are the flagship models, as these products drive downstream sales. And all of revenue action collectively and indirectly fund the development of Resolve and Fusion, which is benefiting alot of users outside of the BM hardware arena.
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    Great for testing and personal projects . But for the money shots, no way !

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    This has been there for a while. BMCC had the same warning, Pocket camera, even the Dbolex has similar "warnings". I believe this is due to the amateur crowd that is renting these products and are unaware of the "quirks" that these lower priced cameras have. Not defending BM as I think the company and the way grant runs it is shit and thats why I bought a RED. Their cameras, when you get a good one, pump out a stellar image that compares to an alexa in the right hands, at a price RED can't compete with. But their quality control is beyond pathetic.
    As for the warnings though, BM has had their cameras used on quite a few blockbuster films, as Crash cams and C cams etc, so I think LR's warnings are a little heavy handed and more so in place to protect themselves against possible litigation in the event of a failure on set. Just my 2 cents
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Carr View Post
    I still don't know why people buy cameras from BM, given the track record of poorly designed, under featured and just plain bad cameras.
    I use them because I like the character of the images it produces (wich is far from perfect).
    Strange that they are the only camera having 16G HDSDI output. This could have been a big + in Weapon's monitoring path. I would have imagined that RED, wich were the first 4k advocate, would have put this in their specs (or 4k HDMI)
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