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    Phil, I think (dont remember what exactly) you wrote something here on RedUser that Compact Zoom is another beast (much better) compared with CP.3. But what about CZ.2 vs CP.3? Thank you
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    The compact zooms are insanely good. But each zoom is 20k, so probably out of your price range currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic Barbero View Post
    if you have money for one, get a sigma. haha. CP anything sucks. Stay away.
    Wow, says the one how's using CY Zeiss. CPs have been built on decade old designs (CY line etc.) with a more modern coating, better contrast, punchier colours.
    If you don't like it doesn't mean nobody else will. CPs are highly popular and a very smart choice for owner/operators since they rent well and get hired all around the world.

    And to answer the OPs question, starting with a 28mm is a great versatile choice.
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    Yup CP2s are probably the most used and most rented cine lenses in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Scott View Post
    Yup CP2s are probably the most used and most rented cine lenses in the world.
    Exactly. They are basically the Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic of the lens world.

    Obviously not as exciting as a vintage sports car, but infintely more practical.
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    I had a chance to play with the Cp3 very briefly at a local dealer today.
    First impression, wow they are light. Very light. Ideal for gimbal and drone work. Focus and iris are smooth, smoother than the old Cp2. Although, they feel a little bit "plastically". I guess this is the trade of for lightweight. Can't have it all :-)

    However, what I discovered is that these lenses exhibit quite an amount of CA, magenta and green. Quite nasty to be honest.
    On the 85mm and 50mm you have to stop down at least to T4. On 35mm stop down to T2.8. The 21mm was the best of all. I am not sure if these sets have flaws. Local dealer told me that they bought the set directly from Zeiss Germany and they are full production units. If that is the case, this is quite disappointing IMO.
    I uploaded some R3D files. Please check for yourself. As I said, just turned on my camera and made some quick shots because I was on a run.

    Shot on my EpicW beta 6.4.23 with Standard Olpf, IPP2, ISO 800
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Christen View Post
    I had a chance to play with the Cp3 very briefly at a local dealer today.
    First impression, wow they are light. Very light. Ideal for gimbal and drone work. Focus and iris are smooth, smoother than the old Cp2. Although, they feel a little bit "plastically". I guess this is the trade of for lightweight. Can't have it all :-)

    However, what I discovered is that these lenses exhibit quite an amount of CA, magenta and green. Quite nasty to be honest.
    On the 85mm and 50mm you have to stop down at least to T4. On 35mm stop down to T2.8. The 21mm was the best of all. I am not sure if these sets have flaws. Local dealer told me that they bought the set directly from Zeiss Germany and they are full production units. If that is the case, this is quite disappointing IMO.
    I uploaded some R3D files. Please check for yourself. As I said, just turned on my camera and made some quick shots because I was on a run.

    Shot on my EpicW beta 6.4.23 with Standard Olpf, IPP2, ISO 800
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9b90qr7bb...57T8E4I6a?dl=0
    Dang, that's what I was afraid of. No improvement over the CP.2's it seems to my eye.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth C Merrill View Post
    Dang, that's what I was afraid of. No improvement over the CP.2's it seems to my eye.
    For a short moment I was quite excited when I held them in my hands.
    But when I saw these nasty CA on my DP7 Pro monitor ... meh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Christen View Post
    For a short moment I was quite excited when I held them in my hands.
    But when I saw these nasty CA on my DP7 Pro monitor ... meh
    It's such a shame. As someone who's interested in investing in some Prime lenses both for myself and for the rental house I sublet through, I was excited about the Cp.3's thinking they would have solved some of that. But it looks like it was too much to hope for. Unfortunately I doubt the Sigma's will rent much in LA, as their name is not trusted and the market is too saturated with other options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Friedlander View Post
    Exactly. They are basically the Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic of the lens world.

    Obviously not as exciting as a vintage sports car, but infintely more practical.
    Quite agree. Do I have permission to steal your analogiies?
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