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    I have some footage that was shot at night, but doesn't look it very much. I was over lit, IMHO. And I'm trying to make it look more night like. Not crazy so, the characters need to be easy to see and their skin tones not shifted too much.

    Here's a link to a TIFF from the scene. (A JPG is attached below.)

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/nvqtr9q4z4...1.2.4.tif?dl=0

    Any input, advice, etc. would be greatly appreciated!!!
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    To make it more conceivable as night, you're going to have to sacrifice some of the redness in the skin tones.

    Start out with curving the image, making the black point his shorts.
    The best spot for selecting a gray point seems to be one that subtly makes it a little bit darker than the black point did without completely giving the image a blue cast, but you could get by with just that black point. And then skip adding a white point.

    Underexpose it a little more than half a stop. Not too much unless want a stylistic Mad Max-esque "Night-To-Day".

    Ever so slightly desaturate it (equivalent to somewhere in the range of -25 to -4 in Photoshop's Vibrance tool).

    Slightly shift the Midtones towards Cyan and Blue instead of Red and Yellow.

    In a second Curves adjustment, recurve the Blue Channel to be more muted in tone. Lifting up the red channel around the 25% mark a small amount, and dropping it at the 60% about twice as much.

    Should end up looking like this.


    And then here's the overview for the second curve adjustment:
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    I'd say more than anything though, that could give you a starting point. There's a lot more or a lot of different directions you could go from there. And with the actual RAW files you could create a lot better results than basing it off a compressed .jpg. And maybe take a second and in REDCINE-X try out giving it a colder white balance combined with underexposing a stop. You may like the blue cast more than basing it off what you currently have it set to after looking at it side by side.

    Otherwise, if you purchased PhilmColor, I believe Phil has some LUT's that are sort of like Night-To-Day that may help get the look you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Veen View Post
    Otherwise, if you purchased PhilmColor, I believe Phil has some LUT's that are sort of like Night-To-Day that may help get the look you want.
    Bingo :)

    nightHeron in particular on this shot.
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    Peter,

    maybe try something like this.with gradients.

    [IMG]couple night_1.1.1 by rand thompson, on Flickr[/IMG]
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    Peter,

    Or maybe a room with white walls instead of blue because there are no windows that would show moonlight. The Light is coming from the bathroom.

    [IMG]couple night with white walls_1.1.2 by rand thompson, on Flickr[/IMG]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    Bingo :)

    nightHeron in particular on this shot.
    Unfortunately, this is XAVC-S footage. :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by rand thompson View Post
    Peter,

    maybe try something like this.with gradients.

    [IMG]couple night_1.1.1 by rand thompson, on Flickr[/IMG]
    Rand, thanks so much! I've tried something similar with power windows around the actors. But I especially like the shade of blue you gave the b.g. Would it be possible for you to post a link to the grade? Thanks so much for considering!

    And thank you to everyone's replies!
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    The gradient look definitely showcases skintones better, unless the shot isn't static in which case that might not do the best.

    Another option could be record the shadow from trees blowing in the wind against a white-screen, and use that to make the mask for some of your effects. It'd require more work to do, however, but potentially might provide the best results.
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    Peter here you go buddy.

    Put both files in the same folder, and only the .tiff will be visible when you look to import it but it will bring in the .drx file with the grade with it.

    you should have the .tiff that shows the grade and the .drx file that has the grading info in it.



    It was a quick grade, so you might have to clean it up a little bit.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/u9nxlckhx1...1.1.1.drx?dl=0

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/retf2dp374...1.1.1.tif?dl=0
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