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    I agree that the pilot feels drastically different than the episodes that follow it, but I'm not sure why that is. The entire series was shot from pilot to last episode with no break in production and the guy who was running the show originally, was out long before shooting began, so it wasn't like someone grabbed the wheel and made a hard right. Perhaps it's just a result of toomanyfuckingexecutivitis?
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    The pilot was shot by Guillermo Navarro and directed by David Semel. Neither of them were involved in any of the later series episodes. (well, David was as an executive producer, but that is contractual.....).
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    Almost distractingly gorgeous sets. Great new show; very dark and edgy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Morellini View Post
    $10 million is nothing compared to Voyager.
    You are incredibly mistaken. $10 million per episode is one of the highest budgets in the history of American television (almost $150 million for 15 episodes). The only show I think that can come close is Game of Thrones, which is a show that kind of plays by its own rules. A more typical budget for an hour-long drama these days is somewhere between $3 million and $5 million per episode.

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    The pilot was shot by Guillermo Navarro and directed by David Semel. Neither of them were involved in any of the later series episodes. (well, David was as an executive producer, but that is contractual.....).
    I also noticed that Stefan Sonnenfeld of CO3 did the color on the pilot, but other Deluxe colorists have taken over since then. The show looks really gorgeous, just a fantastic "feature-quality" look from start to finish.
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    I am mistaken Marc, I thought you meant the entire budget, which I thought was rather low. Sorry.

    But it's nice. But some of the articles on it are a bit much. It seems to beuch to do about nothing much. The director had too many projects, so was refocused on other projects before they got into it. No much controversy to that. I'm more interested if there was a getter artistic vision that was left behind. As is the science and some plot elements leave me underwhelmed, but it picked up and was good elsewhere.

    Some articles were like this main character died, the main character is going be killed off, what happened to the other universe character etc. It's pretty obvious. The alternative versions of the captain and the specialist can still be alive to bring into play, and unlikely on scant evidence that the main character will die. But the captain had been likely sucked into the fungus network, and might even physically pop out, and back in, or just be a consciousness. Things are very much in play. But I was dissapionted the original captain died. I thought they might time jump back and save her, but they didn't even fight a hopeless fight and time jump back to just after they left the alternative universe. But the original captain (one of the characters I don't like so much) was portrayed as very ideal and pure in order to make a martyr out of her I feel (breaks the continuarity of the flow of the script). So it was inevitable she was going to be sacrificed. Which I could have noticed if I was paying attention.

    However, remember the creatures on the planet on the first episode, and how the original pilot banished. Things seem to have deep roots though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Morellini View Post
    I am mistaken Marc, I thought you meant the entire budget, which I thought was rather low.
    It's remarkable to consider that, back in 1966, Star Trek was the most expensive show Desilu had ever produced and one of the most costly shows NBC had ever made... and it was about $250,000 per episode. That works out to about $1.9 million today. So the fact that Star Trek:Discovery costs north of $9.5 million per episode is pretty stunning.

    The last few episodes are particularly remarkable, though every once in awhile a VFX shot comes up that's kinda not so great. But all the important things -- the story, the characters, the level of acting and directing -- are really first-rate. I'm amazed at this point when a show can surprise me, and there are some genuine surprises as the show progresses.
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    They had it pretty down pat in 3
    Enterprise, which is one example of how to do a show. There was a special feature one one of the disks I was meaning to buy, but can't remember which. Where they show how the show was directed, rehearsed and run on set. Real professionalism, pretty incredible so they of hit those moods.

    But realistically, as I pisyedeksewgere, they could probably save a heap with a auto manufactured/printed set, and visual effects instead where needed. Thrissur is that these things should versfucing production cost, but instead Rolle are charging a lot without cost saving systems worked out.

    Thereba show, the full fist made on an ultra low budget with cheap but very effective special effects. That show is well worth watching over a number of other shows. Money doesn't really just make quality, but can be used to polish quality.
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