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    I always love the answers I get on here because of the experience on this board.
    I have abou $35k to spend I am looking for

    An ENG lens which will cover a super 35mm chip.
    I'd like it to be no slower than 2.9 AND IT MUST HOLD IT'S APATURE THRU THE ENTIRE ZOOM
    I don't need a really long lens. 14mm - 80mm would be more than fine.
    EF mount is my favorite, but PL is also possible.

    Any recommendations would be wonderful! Thanks!

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    Cabrio 19-90mm.


    For me, servo is a must when doing ENG / news. Particularly if doing live shots. The Director is going to want slow pushes that feather on and off.

    The Cabrio 19-90mm and the Cabrio 20-120mm are claimed by the maker to be "constant aperture". The Canon 17-120mm is not constant aperture.

    Frankly, there aren't many zoom lenses that meet your criteria of no slower than 2.9, constant aperture, and a range sufficient for ENG work. At any price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay A. Kelley View Post
    I always love the answers I get on here because of the experience on this board.
    I have abou $35k to spend I am looking for

    An ENG lens which will cover a super 35mm chip.
    I'd like it to be no slower than 2.9 AND IT MUST HOLD IT'S APATURE THRU THE ENTIRE ZOOM
    I don't need a really long lens. 14mm - 80mm would be more than fine.
    EF mount is my favorite, but PL is also possible.

    Any recommendations would be wonderful! Thanks!

    Jay
    I'll second the recommendation: Cabrio 19-90. You can get V1 version (such as mine) for cheap. V2 version still priced very well. It is *the* ENG lens for S35 (and covers 8K Helium).
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    Tell me more about the V1 Cabrio. What are the differences vs V2?

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    Tell me more about the V1 Cabrio. What are the differences vs V2?

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    Fujinon was very vague, claiming marginally better telephoto performance (due possibly to same optical formula but slightly different mechanical construction). In all the years I've owned the V1, I've not seen a single side-by-side showing any actual improvement. By contrast, I've seen many, many cases where Canon's Mark II L lenses are very different than their original L lenses, with performance differences that can be both seen and measured. And similarly Mark III lenses vs. Mark II lenses. With the Cabrio, the biggest difference I've seen is the logo change on the lens and a 15% difference in resale price.
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    We have 2 cabrio 19..90 V2 $ 24.800 and we use them a lot for ENG work on our UMP (we are a small local network).

    All things considered we wouldn't buy them again, T2.9 is way to fast for ENG work.
    20-120mm Cabrio / T3.5(XK6x20) $ 13.500 is more than adequate for 4k.

    The $ 11.300 saved is good money for a very fast workstation.
    In our case you can double that amount.
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    Misha, you are doing almost EXACTLY what I plan to do. I was worried the 20-120 was too SLOW. Also does it hold it's focus thru the Zoom. I'm betting that's "yes" due to what you do. I am also planning for the UMP for a lot of work for this lens.
    Do you set the camera for 800 or 400 with this lens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay A. Kelley View Post
    Misha, you are doing almost EXACTLY what I plan to do. I was worried the 20-120 was too SLOW. Also does it hold it's focus thru the Zoom. I'm betting that's "yes" due to what you do. I am also planning for the UMP for a lot of work for this lens.
    Do you set the camera for 800 or 400 with this lens?

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    They are both parfocal so I wouldn't worry to much about that.
    During daylight we use 400 most of the time (and often some of the ND-filter).
    In the studio 400 and 800 (no ND).
    At night 800 or 1600 RAW 3:1, Resolve will kill the noise (UMP has almost no in camera noise reduction, if at all).
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    Ok so what you are telling me is that under normal lighting conditions this lens is just fine. You've saved me a crapload of money, and helped me quite a bit. If the UMP can handle it then the RED will have no problem. Does the power pin on the UMP a natural fit for the cabrio? Or is an adaptor needed?

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    One more thing: The 20-120 will hold it's apature thru the zoom correct? I assume both of them do this.

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