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    My solution is a Ranger Gemini. Thankfully the new Rangers are purchasable and have a 5 pin xlr with Phantom power and hi/mic switch. I have ordered my camera but have not yet received it. I look forward to testing the audio.
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    Small Recorder is an Iphone8 ;-)





    Self powered stereo preamp with +48v by Sonosax


    You can also use a Weapon (or any DSLR) as recorder.


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    And here on my Weapon MG

    Sounds really good. The preamp has a Mixer menu where you can put a limiter. I put mine at -12db and the gain mic at +35db. So it puts the 132db of DR of the preamp to a more usable DR for the analog Minijack input of the camera and won't ever overload it.





    Here is an audio clip form the R3D.


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    M2D2 limiter set to -10db in the Mixer menu and audio gain at +35db
    Unballanced stereo out (TA3) from the M2D2 to minijack input of the camera set to 0dB gain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Tresch View Post
    And here on my Weapon MG

    Sounds really good. The preamp has a Mixer menu where you can put a limiter. I put mine at -12db and the gain mic at +35db. So it puts the 132db of DR of the preamp to a more usable DR for the analog Minijack input of the camera and won't ever overload it.





    Here is an audio clip form the R3D.


    MS CCM41_CCM8 Schoeps
    M2D2 limiter set to -10db in the Mixer menu and audio gain at +35db
    Unballanced stereo out (TA3) from the M2D2 to minijack input of the camera set to 0dB gain.
    It seems like a decent setup for what on board RED audio can currently support.

    Would like to see hardware like that mixer built into the camera (or added through a module)
    and across 4 separate XLR inputs. RED has come reasonably close in the past (RED ONE) and
    I think they can do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Timmons View Post
    Canon and Sony supports 4 XLR channels in their latest mid range cinema cameras.

    C500 Mkii
    https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/p...s-c500-mark-ii

    FX9
    https://pro.sony/en_GB/products/hand...sBlock-pxw-fx9

    Naturally, I hope RED takes notice and acts.

    While I highly doubt RED Komodo will support anything like 4 channels, it would be nice if integration (i.e trigger record) with a recorder like the Zoom F6 can be made.
    https://zoom-na.com/products/field-v...field-recorder

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    Even their old FS7 mk1 still allowed 4x XLR inputs via the smart shoe accessory.
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    I have been working with the audio on my new Ranger Gemini. It’s great but a headphone and gain knob would be nice. I am using a Shure FP33 mixer with an imbilical cable with return audio for monitoring. It works great with the Ranger. I also have a Zoom F4 recorder with timecode and RTN audio which also works to go simultaneously direct into camera as well as 4 discrete channels of separate double system sound. It behaves as a mixer close to the FP33 except the stereo line output is at a lower level than most pro line level signals with no way to adjust it. I’m still working with settings inside the Ranger to optimize the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Cooksey View Post
    as well as 4 discrete channels of separate double system sound.
    Actually the Zoom F4 is a 6 channel / 8 track field recorder.
    http://IronFilm.co.nz/Sound/ (Sound Recordist based in Auckland, NZ. Happy to travel too)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Tresch View Post
    Small Recorder is an Iphone8 ;-)

    Patrick, where did you find those colourful TA3-F cables?
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