Call for better audio recording on newer RED cameras.

[Pat Cooksey]

My solution is a Ranger Gemini. Thankfully the new Rangers are purchasable and have a 5 pin xlr with Phantom power and hi/mic switch. I have ordered my camera but have not yet received it. I look forward to testing the audio.

[Patrick Tresch]

Small Recorder is an Iphone8 ;-)





Self powered stereo preamp with +48v by Sonosax


You can also use a Weapon (or any DSLR) as recorder.

[Patrick Tresch]

And here on my Weapon MG

Sounds really good. The preamp has a Mixer menu where you can put a limiter. I put mine at -12db and the gain mic at +35db. So it puts the 132db of DR of the preamp to a more usable DR for the analog Minijack input of the camera and won't ever overload it.





Here is an audio clip form the R3D.


MS CCM41_CCM8 Schoeps
M2D2 limiter set to -10db in the Mixer menu and audio gain at +35db
Unballanced stereo out (TA3) from the M2D2 to minijack input of the camera set to 0dB gain.

[Brian Timmons]

And here on my Weapon MG

Sounds really good. The preamp has a Mixer menu where you can put a limiter. I put mine at -12db and the gain mic at +35db. So it puts the 132db of DR of the preamp to a more usable DR for the analog Minijack input of the camera and won't ever overload it.





Here is an audio clip form the R3D.


MS CCM41_CCM8 Schoeps
M2D2 limiter set to -10db in the Mixer menu and audio gain at +35db
Unballanced stereo out (TA3) from the M2D2 to minijack input of the camera set to 0dB gain.

It seems like a decent setup for what on board RED audio can currently support.

Would like to see hardware like that mixer built into the camera (or added through a module)
and across 4 separate XLR inputs. RED has come reasonably close in the past (RED ONE) and
I think they can do it again.

Brian Timmons
BRITIM/MEDIA

[David Peterson]

Canon and Sony supports 4 XLR channels in their latest mid range cinema cameras.

C500 Mkii
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/p...s-c500-mark-ii

FX9
https://pro.sony/en_GB/products/hand...sBlock-pxw-fx9

Naturally, I hope RED takes notice and acts.

While I highly doubt RED Komodo will support anything like 4 channels, it would be nice if integration (i.e trigger record) with a recorder like the Zoom F6 can be made.
https://zoom-na.com/products/field-v...field-recorder

Brian Timmons
BRITIM/MEDIA

Even their old FS7 mk1 still allowed 4x XLR inputs via the smart shoe accessory.

[Pat Cooksey]

I have been working with the audio on my new Ranger Gemini. It’s great but a headphone and gain knob would be nice. I am using a Shure FP33 mixer with an imbilical cable with return audio for monitoring. It works great with the Ranger. I also have a Zoom F4 recorder with timecode and RTN audio which also works to go simultaneously direct into camera as well as 4 discrete channels of separate double system sound. It behaves as a mixer close to the FP33 except the stereo line output is at a lower level than most pro line level signals with no way to adjust it. I’m still working with settings inside the Ranger to optimize the system.

[David Peterson]

as well as 4 discrete channels of separate double system sound.

Actually the Zoom F4 is a 6 channel / 8 track field recorder.

[Blair Thornton]

Small Recorder is an Iphone8 ;-)

Patrick, where did you find those colourful TA3-F cables?