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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Yaeger View Post
    Thanks Mike!

    This beta version was obviously optimized for higher playback speeds. A side effect of that optimization is potential stuttering when the system isn't capable of hitting the target FPS. We know of a few ways we can compensate for this. To help decide which way (or ways) to use, we've added additional information to this version's log files.
    Thanks Steven. Just to be clear, while offering info on issues I'm seeing, I'm VERY excite by this new development. Almost as excited as I am with my RED cameras themselves. Anything I can do to help, please let me know.

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    Dam it Jarred!!

    You are really working hard on making me try Windows again, but this time around I might just sale the MacBook Pro all together in the same way I did with the iPhone in favor of the RED Hydrogen One and never looked back!!

    This is really so awesome RED TEAM you guys fucking ROCK!!

    Windows only... Heh, ok I get it.

    Best current choice of Laptop sporting the RTX 2080 Ti?
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    This is amazing! I threw a bunch of clips at it. On a single GTX 1080 I'm getting:

    8K FF 5:1 19 fps
    8K FF 6:1 20 fps
    8K FF 7:1 17 fps
    8K FF 8:1 21 fps
    8K FF 10:1 23 fps
    8K FF 4:1 18-19 fps
    8K FF 7:1 21 fps
    8K FF 13:1 23-24 fps
    8K FF 6:1 20 fps

    8K HD 5:1 19 fps
    8K HD 7:1 17 fps
    8K HD 8:1 21 fps
    8K HD 10:1 21-22 fps
    8K HD 16:1 23-24 fps

    8K 2:1 5:1 21 fps
    8K 2:1 12:1 24 fps (100% of project base 24 fps)

    8k WS 8:1 24 fps (100% of project base 24 fps)
    8K WS 4:1 21-22 fps
    8K WS 5:1 22-24 fps
    8K WS 9:1 24 fps (project base 25 fps)
    8K WS 10:1 24 fps (100% of project base 24 fps)
    8K WS 13:1 25 fps (100% of project base 25 fps)
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    Aaron, how do you measure the fps? For export I understand how, but would be useful for playback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSi View Post
    Dam it Jarred!!

    Best current choice of Laptop sporting the RTX 2080 Ti?
    Hiya Ketch, there is sadly no laptop that has a RTX 2080 Ti, also as far as I know there is not currently one that has a RTX 2080 either. What they have is a RTX 2080 Max-Q that is a mobile version which is slower, but uses less power.
    However, there will be probably be released laptops that have the full RTX 2080 cards, just like you can get full 1080 GTX cards.

    However you are unlikely to get realtime with full debayer 8k 30fps on a RTX 2080 (since it is not Ti). Unless of course Red keeps optimizing. 24 is more likely of course.
    Myself I'm ok with a heavy laptop (around 5kg) so we currently have a MSI Titan GT75 with 17" screen, 96GB RAM, 1080 GTX and 10TB SSD. The next generation of these will of course have 2080 cards.
    They even have an 18.4" GT83 laptop that has dual GPUs. A future version with dual RTX 2080 should have no problem with realtime 8k, probably would be able to deliver 1.5x realtime.

    These larger laptops however have heavy power cables (2kg!), are heavy in themselves and have poor battery power (2-3).
    There are of course slimmer laptops with longer power etc, but then they also suffer from heat problems and are not as powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreasOberg View Post
    how do you measure the fps?
    It should show up in the lower left corner of the REDCINE-X PRO Viewer window. While the clip is playing it displays the FPS of recent frames. When playback stops it switches to the average FPS, since the clip started playing.
    If you can't reproduce it, it must have been caused by the pulse generated by the mass synchronization of digital watches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreasOberg View Post
    Hiya Ketch, there is sadly no laptop that has a RTX 2080 Ti, also as far as I know there is not currently one that has a RTX 2080 either. What they have is a RTX 2080 Max-Q that is a mobile version which is slower, but uses less power.
    However, there will be probably be released laptops that have the full RTX 2080 cards, just like you can get full 1080 GTX cards.

    However you are unlikely to get realtime with full debayer 8k 30fps on a RTX 2080 (since it is not Ti). Unless of course Red keeps optimizing. 24 is more likely of course.
    Myself I'm ok with a heavy laptop (around 5kg) so we currently have a MSI Titan GT75 with 17" screen, 96GB RAM, 1080 GTX and 10TB SSD. The next generation of these will of course have 2080 cards.
    They even have an 18.4" GT83 laptop that has dual GPUs. A future version with dual RTX 2080 should have no problem with realtime 8k, probably would be able to deliver 1.5x realtime.

    These larger laptops however have heavy power cables (2kg!), are heavy in themselves and have poor battery power (2-3).
    There are of course slimmer laptops with longer power etc, but then they also suffer from heat problems and are not as powerful.

    Cheers!
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    Will keep my eyes open, and thanks for the run down Andreas.

    Need an option for my current project, a short film I'm shooting in Venice Italy on the RED Hydrogen in 4k 3d/4V for a 4V finish and doing the 2D version for Film Festival submission on 8k, but since I'll need to look for an Editor & Colorist to finish the short for me anyways I won't have to worry too much about what I have, but still looking to get a Laptop to handle as much as possible, since investing in a new one, even PC at this point saying good by once and for all to Apple on a Mobile station too.
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    Andreas,


    As Steven stated above, It's in the lower left corner of the Redcine-X viewer window.




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    Quote Originally Posted by KETCH ROSSi View Post
    Will keep my eyes open, and thanks for the run down Andreas.

    Need an option for my current project, a short film I'm shooting in Venice Italy on the RED Hydrogen in 4k 3d/4V for a 4V finish and doing the 2D version for Film Festival submission on 8k, but since I'll need to look for an Editor & Colorist to finish the short for me anyways I won't have to worry too much about what I have, but still looking to get a Laptop to handle as much as possible, since investing in a new one, even PC at this point saying good by once and for all to Apple on a Mobile station too.
    For a more mobile but still strong laptop maybe the MSI GS75 Stealth could be of interest. All new manufacturers will are coming out with new ones, but I like the cooling solutions from especially the larger MSI.

    Best of luck with your project!
    Thanks Rand and Steven for the fps counter, never saw it before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Lochert View Post
    This is amazing! I threw a bunch of clips at it. On a single GTX 1080 I'm getting:

    8K FF 5:1 19 fps
    8K FF 6:1 20 fps
    8K FF 7:1 17 fps
    8K FF 8:1 21 fps
    8K FF 10:1 23 fps
    8K FF 4:1 18-19 fps
    8K FF 7:1 21 fps
    8K FF 13:1 23-24 fps
    8K FF 6:1 20 fps

    8K HD 5:1 19 fps
    8K HD 7:1 17 fps
    8K HD 8:1 21 fps
    8K HD 10:1 21-22 fps
    8K HD 16:1 23-24 fps

    8K 2:1 5:1 21 fps
    8K 2:1 12:1 24 fps (100% of project base 24 fps)

    8k WS 8:1 24 fps (100% of project base 24 fps)
    8K WS 4:1 21-22 fps
    8K WS 5:1 22-24 fps
    8K WS 9:1 24 fps (project base 25 fps)
    8K WS 10:1 24 fps (100% of project base 24 fps)
    8K WS 13:1 25 fps (100% of project base 25 fps)

    I have not tested this beta yet. But your numbers are less good than I get on my osx 1080ti machine without this new Nvidia drivers. Am I missing something?
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