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    Hi guys,
    need some help. I want a light fluid head for Magic Carpet Pro. Head must be light but take 8kg DSMC2 camera. Something for travel. I looked to Sachtler but I don't see any small and light flat base heads. :( Do you have any tips?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karel Šimůnek View Post
    Hi guys,
    need some help. I want a light fluid head for Magic Carpet Pro. Head must be light but take 8kg DSMC2 camera. Something for travel. I looked to Sachtler but I don't see any small and light flat base heads. :( Do you have any tips?
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    At NAB I saw the new Manfrotto 612 coming out. I normally don't recommend them, but for travel, this may do the trick.

    https://www.manfrotto.us/nitrotech-6...ous-cbs-1967c8
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    Sachtler AceXL head, 3.7lb/1.7kg

    17.6lb/8kg Capacity

    https://www.sachtler.com/en/sachtler...l-/c-26/p-1330
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    I don't know of something flat base that supports 8kg. When confronted with a similar problem, I chose to strip down my rig and use a Miller Air head, which only supports 11 lbs but has a flat base mode. The Miller DS-20 also allows flat-base mounting, supports 18 lbs. I own a Sachtler DV12SB, but much prefer the Miller models to the Sachtler Ace (or Manfrottos) in this size/price range.

    The other thing you can do is add a slender hi hat; Ikan makes one that's approx. 6" high.

    That said, I think that compact sliders are almost always a problem with medium and large cameras, even when they are rated to take the weight. I have the Rhino. The problem is that they are too narrow (distance between rails) to allow effective use with a camera raised 5 or 6 inches above the platform, and they want to torque or flip themselves over as the center of gravity changes. You can maybe deal with it with grip-- two sturdy stands, sandbags, etc.-- but that defeats the purpose of a travel-sized slider!

    So my real solution is to only use my slider with an A7RIII, rather than my main camera.
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    The problem is that they are too narrow (distance between rails) to allow effective use with a camera raised 5 or 6 inches above the platform, and they want to torque or flip themselves over as the center of gravity changes. You can maybe deal with it with grip-- two sturdy stands, sandbags, etc.-- but that defeats the purpose of a travel-sized slider!
    The problem is that they are too narrow (distance between rails) to allow effective use with a camera raised 5 or 6 inches above the platform, and they want to torque or flip themselves over as the center of gravity changes. You can maybe deal with it with grip-- two sturdy stands, sandbags, etc.-- but that defeats the purpose of a travel-sized slider!
    I have a little slider that I use for doc stuff. I put a 100mm ball mount on the center so I can mount it on the tripod. Then I put monopods on each end so it is supported the whole run. Works very well and is still compact and travely ;-)

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    I have Manfrotto Nitro 8 and its perfect for your need, We use it exactly for that you want
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    Guys, thank you! That Sachtler Ace XL head looks amazing!
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    I have a little slider that I use for doc stuff. I put a 100mm ball mount on the center so I can mount it on the tripod. Then I put monopods on each end so it is supported the whole run. Works very well and is still compact and travely ;-)

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    Good tip-- I'll have to try that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Gundu View Post
    At NAB I saw the new Manfrotto 612 coming out. I normally don't recommend them, but for travel, this may do the trick.

    https://www.manfrotto.us/nitrotech-6...ous-cbs-1967c8
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