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    Embargo seems to have lifted a day early as well, or is it Amsterdam being a day ahead?

    https://sonycine.com/articles/sony-i...frame-pxw-fx9/

    https://www.redsharknews.com/product...order,-the-fx9
    https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/09/...-frame-sensor/


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO625L0qxGo


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWmf3ncgOeo


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghGhPwuyIDw

    The Sony FX9 has been announced. FX6, not officially, but soon?

    They also state a newly developed 6K FF35 Sensor. 15 stops of DR.

    Records 4K 4:2:2 10-bit internally oversampled from the full 6K frame.

    Same Color Science and dual ISO of the Venice (ISO 800/4000), similar DR and tonal mapping from what I can see.

    Codec: MPEG HD422/XAVC-I/XAVC-L 4:2:2 10-Bit

    Requires the XDCA-FX9 Extension Kit for 4K 120fps and 16-bit RAW.

    Variable Electronic ND.

    Interchangeable Mounts: Yes w/ the same E-Mount/PL thingy.
    Audio: Stereo XLR
    Monitoring: 1X 12G SDI, 1X 3G SDI, 1X HDMI
    Media: 2X XQD Slots, 1X SDHC Card Slot

    At the moment it's a UHD 4K camera with a notable firmware update coming in December, then another one Summer 2020. Camera ships at the end of 2019.

    More on the firmware upgrade stuff. It appears that it's a 60p 4K DCI camera, 30p from the max 6K format size. As for full frame 6K, it appears there will be a firmware update down the line to allow for up to 60p, at least that was hinted at. On hard paper stuff I can see there is a 5K mode that will top out at 60p. If I was a betting man that would likely be the big Summer firmware update.

    Price = $11,000 USD, about $14K with the Extension Kit and you would still need an external RAW recorder in this case as it only provides the 16-bit ucompressed RAW out.
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    Is it UHD or 4K DCI?

    Now RED it’s time to show your AF (eye tracking) development in your new DSMC3 model ;-)

    Is it based on the A7 3 sensor?
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    Man full frame is becoming old hat.
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    This is amazing. IT is hard to believe that it has taken so long for ANY manufacturer to do full frame 422 10 bit in a proper camera format. This is wonderful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Tresch View Post
    Is it UHD or 4K DCI?

    Now RED it’s time to show your AF (eye tracking) development in your new DSMC3 model ;-)

    Is it based on the A7 3 sensor?
    If I'm not mistaken it's a 3:2 sensor. By December it should have all DCI and 16x9 features enabled. Don't know about full height anamorphic or anything by then.

    Eye Tracking AF would be fancy. It's in this arena where Canon and Sony excel. However, I'd be much more interested in more advanced/robust In Camera Focus Tools. We have good ones already. Various Magnification Modes while recording is on the top of that list for me.

    Won't comment on the sensor tech, but it's a 6K FF35 sensor. They are saying newly developed here. Strangely Canon did the same for the C500 MK II and then doubled down on it being the same sensor from the C700.
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    being that it's dual iso, you would think it's a new sensor design
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    Seeing as I am still, and always seem to be, playing catch-up to many of you here, I found this explainer useful:

    "What’s the Difference Between 4K UHD & 4K DCI?"

    https://www.hireacamera.com/en-gb/bl...hd-and-4k-dci/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    They are saying newly developed here. Strangely Canon did the same for the C500 MK II and then doubled down on it being the same sensor from the C700.
    Didn't like the Canon C300 Mark II sensor. Never used the C700 sensor so have no opinion except the demo video didn't impress.

    Just used the Sony FS7 for an interview and was pleased with it as a great tool. Will be interesting to see more about this new FX9.
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    I also hope the new sensor will give an image with more character than the FS7 wich I find a bit tasteless. I still love my spicy Dragon sensor the most.
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    Got an early word on pricing, but I'll wait for the official announcement to post it. It's less thank the Canon C500 MK II, HOWEVER, the big question is what the total will be with the XDCA-FX9 Extension Kit + FX9 combo.

    Out of the box, the C500 MK II is a more capable camera leaving any sort of aesthetics discussion off to the side.

    I'm particularly curious as to what is going to happen on the 6K recording side of things and if it can do internal 6K at all without the Extension Kit, nothing has been stated yet regarding even a down the line firmware update. That's actually good news for Venice owners. I do think if Sony got a chance to do this all over again they would have gone with a 6144 pixel wide sensor. I'm expecting the 6048x4032 total pixel count on this particular one as that appears to be "the way" for a bit now.

    I can't fathom them releasing an 8K camera down the line that doesn't have 8192 support in there, but who knows.
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