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  1. #1 Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton with IMS on RED 
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    Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton with IMS on RED.

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    The fastest still lens at 35mm focal length, not sharp like a Canon FD 50mm at wide open f 1.2 but is still very useful and acceptable for this particular focal length.

    If you don't have Zeiss PL Superspeeds or even Master Primes for your RED this lens can still do a job.

    Requires IMS with Leica-M mount on RED


    Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton, Leica-M mount.


    Karlskirche & Karlsplatz in Vienna, Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton with IMS on RED, 400 ASA, shutter speed 1/32., Color Space RED Space, OUT/LUT Red Space, no CC.


    Karlskirche & Karlsplatz in Vienna, Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton with IMS on RED, 400 ASA, shutter speed 1/32., Color Space RED Space, OUT/LUT Red Space, no CC.


    Musikverein House in Vienna, Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton with IMS on RED, 400 ASA, shutter speed 1/32., Color Space RED Space, OUT/LUT Red Space, no CC.

    Have a look better at the 2K h264 file with link below,

    BRAND NEW 2K VIDEO LINK>>>

    All two shots were processed at 400 ASA.
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    Very Nice Sanjin.

    So it is this lens: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...spherical.html

    How do you like this lens compared to similar lenses in your kit that are more expensive? Your movie was very nice and I was surprised by that last shot. Thank you for showing the "other" possibilities...
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    Hi Andrew,

    Yes it is that lens at B&H link, Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton.

    This evening I did a short comparison test between Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton, Canon FD 50mm f/1.2 and Leica Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4.

    Short:

    Of course that Leica was the sharpest, Canon FD to follow but Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton can also do a job as I wrote before.

    35 mm is still wider than 50 mm and f 1.2 is still 1/2 stop faster than f 1.4.

    That's all what you would need if you cannot afford fast cine lenses at 35 mm focal length.

    BTW, I did not try out Zeiss Super Speeds, Ultra Primes or even Master Primes and I'm just curious how they could compare with the fastest still lenses at wide open (of course on RED).

    What I saw with Zeiss lenses here it was maximum at 1K resolution that I cannot judge in this resolution at all.
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    Sanjin,

    Beautiful. I love making movies at night and you live in such a beautiful city to do that.

    I realize that it is likely not the lens for all occasions but I find myself drawn to that particular softness that the Voigtländer exhibits.

    Thanks again.
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    David,

    you are right but 1/2 of stop can save a job even if it is a bit softer.

    Also I'm not a lens specialist and will quote the professional Erwin Puts:

    "Conclusion
    The lens is a complex design with ten elements and three aspherical surfaces and from these
    specifications we may infer that the image quality might be at least as good as the performance
    we expect from more normal designs. The additional half stop to 1:1.2 and the wide angle of view
    seem to impose such limits to the designers that the compromise they searched for is a bit elusive.
    While very good 1.2 designs were made in the seventies in the 50mm focal length (see my Canon report),
    the step to a 35mm focal length is, even today, a bridge too far. The Nokton 1.2/35mm Aspherical is a good
    performer at smaller apertures, but at the wider apertures, it is just acceptable."


    Erwin Puts - TAO of Leica>>>


    Musikverein House in Vienna, Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton with IMS on RED, 400 ASA, shutter speed 1/32., Color Space RED Space, OUT/LUT Red Space, no CC.


    Musikverein House in Vienna, Canon FD 50 mm f1.2 at f/1.2 with IMS on RED, 400 ASA, shutter speed 1/32., Color Space RED Space, OUT/LUT Red Space, no CC.


    Musikverein House in Vienna, Leica Summilux-R 50 mm f 1.4 wide open with IMS on RED, 400 ASA, shutter speed 1/32., Color Space RED Space, OUT/LUT Red Space, no CC.
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    How is hand held like in these low light conditions? Can you try the 35 in a nightclub?
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    Hi Sanjin,

    If you have time, it would be very intersting to compare the Canon FD 50mm f1.2 and the Leica f1.4 both at f1.4 and 1.8

    I never use the Canon FD 50mm (nor the 55mm f1.2) wide open at f1.2...too much glow in the highlights and too soft. Much better at f1.4

    thanks

    Antoine
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    Quote Originally Posted by supernovafilms View Post
    How is hand held like in these low light conditions? Can you try the 35 in a nightclub?
    Supernovafilms,

    Clubbing RED effects coming after, maybe one soon, but now not to confirm.


    Quote Originally Posted by Antoine Fabi View Post
    Hi Sanjin,

    If you have time, it would be very intersting to compare the Canon FD 50mm f1.2 and the Leica f1.4 both at f1.4 and 1.8

    I never use the Canon FD 50mm (nor the 55mm f1.2) wide open at f1.2...too much glow in the highlights and too soft. Much better at f1.4

    thanks

    Antoine
    Some more tests of Canon FD 50mm or 50mm FD L , Leica Summilux-R and Leica Summilux-M coming soon.

    I do have a break in Paris for a week now.

    Also was thinking to get RED in Paris but is too much work for a break.

    Maybe to show you another graded 2K video with Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton with IMS on RED.

    Stay tuned.
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    Here are gorgeous shots done using Voigtländer 35mm f 1.2 Nokton on IMS with RED.

    Scaled at 2K and output in H264 using RED Alert..

    BRAND NEW 2K VIDEO LINK>>>

    MORE LIGHT, LESS NOISE>>STILL THE RULE NO.1 SHOOTING RED (B16).
    "There is no point in having sharp images when you've fuzzy ideas."
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    Link not working, Sanjin.
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