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    Hi folks, looking to sell my Dragon, very reluctantly, which has very low hours as I also have an EPIC-W and need to raise some cash for upgrading it and fund a feature I'm planning to shoot this year.

    What will the brain alone fetch these days? Before I come up with a price for the for sale section of these forums, would love to hear if anyone is willing to share their experiences or expectations either in this thread or privately via DMs.

    I'm based on the east coast (NY/NJ). Many thanks!

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    It's a tricky time for Dragon sellers. I've been keeping an eye out since last summer when we were desperately looking for a backup cam as we had a power issue scare on our RED One MX (thankfully it turned out to be an accessory issue) and they were roughly around the $10,000-17,000 then as we were trying to find one for a little less for our budget's sake but none were around. A little over a year later and prices started going down to $9,000-14,000 or so but since the Blackmagic Pocket 4K and 6K came out, things have been rather wild with pricing. I've seen auctions for as little as $5,000 for Epics, MX usually hits this marker and goes even less but some Dragons too, granted as body-only usually. I looked things up a bit the other night after not checking for a while and now there's auctions where it's just delusional high pricing ($20K+) and some going around the $8,000-$12,000 area. New cameras are rolling out and support is dwindling for DSMC1 cameras, if not being entirely gone by now through RED, I haven't checked in a while, and 6K isn't a top headline feature anymore when the Pocket 6K and Panasonic S1H are making the rounds now with newer processing and modern low light standards for far less. It's only going to get lower and lower from here and unless there's a killer deal for one, I'm personally not interested in a DSMC1 Dragon as a new main camera anymore, there's affordable 6K options now and 8K is around the corner, so I'll be riding things out with my RED One MX, Pocket 4K, and Sony A7S for the meantime. Hopefully that helps you determine a price and gives you a look at buyer's mindset at this point and ultimately it depends what's included if it's not just the brain.
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    I sold my epic dragon about exactly a year ago. Put it on ebay, priced to sell. No mount lens mount, but a bunch of media, a monitor, all the free crap you collect, side handle etc. Got $9k, which is about what I felt it was worth. I would expect less now.

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    Thanks guys. That's useful info.
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    Depends on if it's DSMC1 or DSMC2... I would hope a Weapon 6k will still fetch ~$8k+ (~$10k kitted?).

    Coincidentally there was an Epic-M dragon posted on the same day you posed this thread that has since sold. It had everything needed to shoot (except monitor, battery, and lenses) and was listed at only $6500. That's likely a direct result of Pocket 6k and Komodo.

    I can't imagine how inexpensive (kitted) Ravens and Scarlet-Ws will be as soon as Komodo drops... probably ~$4k shootable Scarlet-W packages (it's only 5k, has limited fps, and limited compression ratio)... potentially half that for raven. Dragon-X brains might shift down to <$5k too... I guess that's what happens when you hang your hat on resolution; 2K Alexa Classics are still selling for more than 6k Epic-Dragons because ALEV3 still has the juice.

    Exciting times for the used market though!
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    Well, wait a bit, look at this end of year : https://support.red.com/hc/en-us/art...d-16bdd9685b68
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexandre Chailan View Post
    Well, wait a bit, look at this end of year : https://support.red.com/hc/en-us/art...d-16bdd9685b68
    Exactly. Terrifying.
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    Im so disappointed with this . Does Arri stop support of the Alexa after four years? Hell, no.
    Red is losing me as a customer because of this.
    My next camera is a C500 MKii .
    https://youtu.be/lz7YyLSNJ0g
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    I bought my Scarlet Dragon in 2015 new from RED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexandre Chailan View Post
    Well, wait a bit, look at this end of year : https://support.red.com/hc/en-us/art...d-16bdd9685b68
    What’s even more bogus about this is that I’d bet ~80%+ of Dragon owners probably don’t even know about it (has anyone received any correspondence from RED saying time is running out?)

    I wouldn’t have known had I not seen this thread.
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