Bad RED footage...

[laguun]

Enjoy and let me know if you have more!
http://web.mac.com/paulee303/iWeb/student_film

oh boy, nobody would survive that amount of drinking necessary....

[Jay A. Kelley]

In regards to technology, one of my professors in film school was director Alexander Mackendrick ("Sweet Smell of Success", "The Ladykillers", "The Man in the White Suit") - he once said: "Technology is inherently seductive... and often a director spends time dealing with technical problems as a way of avoiding dealing with human problems." (i.e. it's more fun to play with the camera than learn to talk to actors and get a performance out of them.)
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David,

If Makendrick was one of your teachers then you went to the same school I did.. Do you remember Bill Jackson? He is a wonderful man and was my mentor while i was there. I still speak with him off and on. And I miss Sandy.
:(

Jay

[Johnny Friday]

Wasn't that footage shot on a fast trak? As I would imagine new camera for the DP.....MEANS.....oh yeah this isn't my Panavision 35 that I've worked with for how many years? I'm kinda slow, but I gotta play with my NEW cameras for sometimes weeks before I have usable footage in some cases to seek out what i think are usable settings under the shooting circumstances. I know that's not the case with some professionals out there, but it is mine.

[David Mullen ASC]

Yes, I was at CalArts from 1988-1991 and took classes from Sandy Mackendrick and Bill Jackson (his 3-camera live TV class.)

[Jay A. Kelley]

Yes, I was at CalArts from 1988-1991 and took classes from Sandy Mackendrick and Bill Jackson (his 3-camera live TV class.)

That was a great school.. I went in thinking camera, camera, camera, and left thinking story, story story!!

Jay

[Matt Gottshalk]

Record a Gansgta-Rap Polka Country music video.

[Greg Voevodsky]

David, I agree. The grainy night scenes to me were most definately a deliberate Homage to Television reality drama.

Enough said. I also was working at Chiat / Day when the shaking camera look came in 1990 with people talking about dog food?! (Sorry, I forget what the commercial was for and the random dialog.) A few of us then and now still hate random bad camera work. At least now, it has evolved into a subtle dynamic energetic look used in 24 (very well done) that does not draw attention to itself - unlike Miami Vice - grainy and soft or random shaky camera work done on purpose by Chiat / Day or Blair Witch with similar styles done by amateurs).

There is nothing wrong being an artist, add grain, put Vasoline on the lense, shake the camera, under light, over light, (hey have your actors mumble and underexpose like the Godfather and win an Oscar.) I'm just saying there is a high end, commercial look, or Paramount look that most would say was and is beautiful and there is the opposite of a dirty, dark, grainy, shaky, raw, look. Like music, it can be overproduced or produced badly - its subjective which you like and which fits the story or song best. But when you sing out of tune on purpose, don't expect me to like it for your homage to American idol. ;-)

[Greg Voevodsky]

oh boy, nobody would survive that amount of drinking necessary....

Hey, I'm drunk... but ... I've been watching some of my favorite Hollywood films with your film student drinking game and since most film student cliches are borrowed from the master copiers - or homage payers - depending how you see it - I might blame the parents and the film business (lets do the same movie but different - hmmm Die Hard on a Boat (done)) rather than blaming the students.

[Rodrigo Lizana]

- Use a poor quality prime or zoom !.
- To forget that the camera is a tool and that´s the indian the one that matters. Not the arrow.

[Paul Lee]

...I might blame the parents and the film business (lets do the same movie but different - hmmm Die Hard on a Boat (done)) rather than blaming the students.

Noted Greg, and very true. As per the other discussions, it is the narrative that binds it all together. The students use the cliches in suprising density as they are feeling their way through this complex medium. Obviously my game is in good humor. I could certainly kick back a few watching films I did or worked on in school!