Crimson or Rubber Monkey??????

[PJK]

Hi everyone newly registered and 1st time posting and need a little help

Were mid shooting a feature on the red and just sorting our FCP to color work flow and wanted some opinions on crimson and rubber monkey, which is best

and what formats rubber monkey outputs?

any help much appreciated

[BigLu]

I LOVE CRIMSON.

I have not used Rubber Monkey
I love the name no doubt so id like to try it.

But I have used Crimson on various music videos and commercials.
And It works now.

I used to have trouble with it.
But now IT SO ROCKS.

Dude just buy it its so reasonable.
I dont leave home without it.

If I do and I am supervising a RED workflow project.

I make the studio/edit bay buy it because they will use it.


CRIMSON ROCKS.

[Mark L. Pederson]

Hi everyone newly registered and 1st time posting and need a little help

Were mid shooting a feature on the red and just sorting our FCP to color work flow and wanted some opinions on crimson and rubber monkey, which is best

and what formats rubber monkey outputs?

any help much appreciated

well ... I will say this -

Occasionally, Ian drops by Offhollywood to give me "sneak peaks" of what he is working on ... and I will tell you this ... it may take a little while, but Ian is not playing games and has some surprises coming. No offense to the Rubbey Monkey guys, seems like a nice tool, but I'd put my money on Ian any day of the week.

[Robert Horwell]

i have bought crimson but having real trouble getting the 2k dpx files into FCP, is this possible, we want to grade in color, but i cannot seem to get the roundtrip xml to find the original red files, i have followed ians tutorial to the letter, in which he makes a 1080p mov file, but how do we create a 2k file that will move back to FCP?

ta

[reactor]

Hi Bob,

Are you using EDL based workflow or XML. Crimson is your best bet for a final cut XML . Monkey Extract is for EDL based conform into Apple color and other grading systems.

You can of course open your conformed DPX and EDL into color and then do a send to final cut pro from color once the files are rendered.

Does that help?

[I Bloom]

i have bought crimson but having real trouble getting the 2k dpx files into FCP, is this possible, we want to grade in color, but i cannot seem to get the roundtrip xml to find the original red files, i have followed ians tutorial to the letter, in which he makes a 1080p mov file, but how do we create a 2k file that will move back to FCP?

ta

Bob,

Many of my customers have been asking specifically about DPX->Color workflows.

Here are some thoughts:
Since DPX files contain timecode in their headers, it is possible to conform the DPX files using an EDL from Final cut pro, in parallel to the XML you exported. In other words, use an XML to run Crimson's batching operation, and an EDL to run the conform in Color.

You can also use a different file specification in your roundtrip than you did in your render. I suggest experimenting with .#& and #&, these add start frame numbers to the file name. Also changing the REDline format affects the roundtrip if you are using REDcine.

I'd like to do this a different way, make this better and more robust and much more straight forward, but I needed to stop adding little features to the current incarnation of Crimson so that I can breath life into it's new foundation. In other words I had to put a hold on applying too many band-aids until the patient gets out of the operating room.

I hope you can understand, short term thinking had been getting the best of me. I'm really excited about the work I'm doing currently. It may be tough to understand technically why it has to be this way, and why these things take time, but I hope you will be pleased with the results.

Ian

[Nigel Stanford]

The monkey tool does something quite different to Crimson, that is it lets you get footage out of an Avid / Preimere / Vegas / Whatever and into any grading system.

Personally I think that in an industry where cameras cost $500,000 to $20,000 (red), and with grading systems costing $400,000 to $10,000 (color) anyone working post on Red footage should be able to afford a workflow app under $200 - hell, buy both! They do different things. :)