Full Frame Cinema Shootout 2020...

[John David Pope]

So a horrible film shot on #1 would do better in theaters than an excellent film shot on #5, right?

[Aaron Lochert]

Damn, there is only 01:30 left in the poll but it's 1AM here. I just can't stay awake to see the mystery unveiled, but I'm guessing 1 is Monstro and 3 is Alexa LF ?

It closes in just under 24 hours from now. Go to sleep :)

[David J. Buchanan]

It's Friday! What's the skinny?

[Zack Birlew]

1, 3, 5, and 7 in the first test look great! It’s interesting to see how you can’t go too wrong on the higher end though. I saw a comparison Potato Jet did on YouTube between the C500 Mark II and the Canon RF camera in 4K and the RF was just like the 5D Mark II versus high end HD at the time, details were just so mushy! Can’t wait to see the final reveal on this test, I’m sure some of my choices were an ARRI camera of some sort but I’m pulling for Sony too.

[Evin Grant]

Probably not a big surprise but here's the order, I'll have a labeled video up in a few days, just go booked for the weekend though.
1. Arri Alexa Mini LF
2. Canon Eos C500mII
3. Red Monstro
4. Sigma FP
5. Sony FX9 (S-Cinetone)
6. Sony FX9 (S-Log3)
7. Sony Venice
8. Red Gemini
9. Red Helium

[Aaron Lochert]

Probably not a big surprise but here's the order, I'll have a labeled video up in a few days, just go booked for the weekend though.
1. Arri Alexa Mini LF
2. Canon Eos C500mII
3. Red Monstro
4. Sigma FP
5. Sony FX9 (S-Cinetone)
6. Sony FX9 (S-Log3)
7. Sony Venice
8. Red Gemini
9. Red Helium

Looks like Luigi wins :)

So 5 was Cinetone and 6 was Slog 3? Not at all what I guessed when comparing directly with Venice. Cinetone kinda kills blue saturation, especially compared to every other camera except Sigma. So that's why my guess was that was where a third party LUT was coming in. Interesting...

I'm also surprised to find out that all the RED footage was processed with the Light Iron Color 2 LUT. I expected something with blues skewed far more cyan and yellows pushed orange than what we see in this test. At least, that's what the LUTs floating around this forum labeled DXL2 LUT would lead you to believe.

All I know is that Alexa's Rec709 look is damn good out of the box.

[rand thompson]

Thanks Evin for the reveal!! But I always thought that the Alexa wasn't that good at lowlight, how were you able to recover the -6 underexposure so well? If I may ask?

[Evin Grant]

Thanks Evin for the reveal!! But I always thought that the Alexa wasn't that good at lowlight, how were you able to recover the -6 underexposure so well? If I may ask?

All I did was increase exposure in the RAW controls in Resolve, I think the higher key of the studio test masked the noise a little. Also this being the LF the magnifications is a bit lower compared to the Plus/mini. The cameras that most surprised me were the Gemini and Sigma FP. I've shot with the Gemini before but it really drove home why I like it in the low light test, I think that was my personal favorite in the last two tests. The FX9 AF is also game changing, that bodes really well for the Komodo too.

[rand thompson]

Evin,


Thanks for taking the time for the explanation! I think the Gemini did better than the Monstro in the +6 Overexposure test as well. I think the Sigma FP, for about a $2000 camera, did really good. It just need a little more Color Science tweaking as was mentioned earlier in this thread.

[Joe Cage]

So a horrible film shot on #1 would do better in theaters than an excellent film shot on #5, right?

Well no, but you would want to make your film the best it possibly could. And the alexa LF looks the most amazing, and even if it would only help 5% getting submerged into the characters/story more. It would already be worth that for most.
(not to mention saving time in post making it look great)