View Poll Results: Which cameras color do you prefer form the Full Frame Cinema Shootout 2020

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    54 73.97%
  • 2

    2 2.74%
  • 3

    9 12.33%
  • 4

    2 2.74%
  • 5

    0 0%
  • 6

    1 1.37%
  • 7

    3 4.11%
  • 8

    1 1.37%
  • 9

    1 1.37%

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    Great stuff Evin, thanks for taking the time to do such a test.
    In all conditions, I'm really into camera 1... And I know I'm not the only one.
    I would have sworn 1 is Monstro as render looks pretty similar to what I've experienced in my everyday shoots but if it's Alexa LF, hats off to Arri.
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    If number 1 is a Monstro, RED have done a pretty poor job at marketing that camera. It's significantly better than all the others and it dispels many of the percieved challenges that come with RED footage... all cameras have some challenges of course. Fascinating.
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    FWIW, as a general rule, Cinematographers don't like being "marketed to". They also tend to stick with what they know and trust. IMHO, the only thing that will motivate top DPs to try something new is seeing compelling work done by a peer using a different camera.

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    1) Is Out-of-the-Box Wow.

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    leaving aside for a moment the discussion on color.
    Looking only at the over and under exposure, I am almost certain that the only being very similar in the highlights to ALexa is Venice, but then under being more noisy if used in standard. The only 2 cameras that look alike in the highlights are the 7 and the 1 .. but then the 7 is more noisy below ... So it should be Alexa 1 and Venice 7. Maybe Evin used the Venice in low light mode for the under exposure .. and then possible 7 Alexa and 1 Venice.
    But let's see the results tomorrow heheh
    However impressed all these in a context of controlled light it would be impossible for anyone to understand what camera is and optics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luigivaltulini View Post
    leaving aside for a moment the discussion on color.
    Looking only at the over and under exposure, I am almost certain that the only being very similar in the highlights to ALexa is Venice, but then under being more noisy if used in standard. The only 2 cameras that look alike in the highlights are the 7 and the 1 .. but then the 7 is more noisy below ... So it should be Alexa 1 and Venice 7. Maybe Evin used the Venice in low light mode for the under exposure .. and then possible 7 Alexa and 1 Venice.
    But let's see the results tomorrow heheh
    However impressed all these in a context of controlled light it would be impossible for anyone to understand what camera is and optics.
    I had the exact same thought... It didn't make very much sense because the Venice should be hella clean in Low Light.
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    It wouldn't make sense to use low light mode in the under test and standard mode in the over test without doing that with every dual native or analog gain camera and stating it explicitly. I'm sure that's not what was done...
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    Would have been really really nice if a couple of mirrorless hybrid cameras included! (ehhh... the Sigma kinda counts, but it is a stretch to call it a hybrid, don't see anybody ever buying it to take lots of photos)

    Nikon Z6 and the Panasonic S1H would've been the two to include, as they're currently the best two mirrorless hybrid cameras for shooting full frame 4K.


    Curious too how the Z Cam and Kinefinity full frame offerings would have held up.
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    Monstro must be #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Peterson View Post
    Would have been really really nice if a couple of mirrorless hybrid cameras included! (ehhh... the Sigma kinda counts, but it is a stretch to call it a hybrid, don't see anybody ever buying it to take lots of photos)

    Nikon Z6 and the Panasonic S1H would've been the two to include, as they're currently the best two mirrorless hybrid cameras for shooting full frame 4K.


    Curious too how the Z Cam and Kinefinity full frame offerings would have held up.
    The Sigma was included for two reasons...
    1. We had one on hand
    2. It records a full frame 4K 12bit RAW file directly to a USB-C SSD without the need of an external recorder.

    After spending some time with the RAW files I think Sigma really has a winner once they get the kinks worked out of the UI and color science.
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