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    Removed to avoid confusion.

    And yes, if it's an artificial heat/time limit (presumably to preserve higher end sales), that'd be pretty dirty. But like Ian Malcom said, 'life, uhhh, finds a way.'
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    ...............and no reason for the online "outcry".
    The outcry is from the generation that doesn't often get to see technology being held back. They're used to their devices using the full capabilities of the hardware. They've been shown a device that has the hardware capable of that level of performance for that price point, but its being (either artificially, or through engineering oversight) throttled to help the company try to protect their upper tier.

    I know there is so much mis-information regarding the "issues". However unless there's a difference made through firmware updates it is still going to be an issue for a lot of current and potential customers.

    I'm not going to take any one's word as full fact, but among the many sources provided by people with a passion, Andrew Reid at EOSHD has been putting a lot of effort into being factual. There is some crucial information missing from this article (https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-eos...s-4-c-ambient/), but it shows issues with stills mode as well. This one helps confirm that it is solely firmware limited, not heat as suggested https://www.eoshd.com/news/this-is-m...ideo-evidence/.

    It is coming to light that these "issues" are most likely artificially imposed through firmware, not where they reach hardware limitations.

    I will agree a lot of the belly-aching isn't fully justified, as Canon has been relatively upfront about the fact time limited recording exists.

    I could be altogether wrong and there might really be a heat issue as there isn't any thermal management directly attached to the ASIC.

    Time will tell. Regardless, the people that end up with one of these in their hand will still find ways to create amazing art with it.
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    It seems to be a little of both firmware limiting and real heat issues. It looks like part of the record time limitation is set by a clock timing simply the camera power on time rather than temp measurement. I agree that that should be fixed so shutdown aligns with temperature or possibly actual record time since I do believe it is within the right of a manufacturer to limit certain functions even if it is simply to protect other products in their line as long as they are upfront about what the limits are and it meets the given specs. At that point, if you don't like it don't buy it.

    For example, IIRC most BMWs have a computer controlled speed limit even though they are typically capable of much higher speeds.
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    You're right, most cars on the road (in North America) are factory speed restricted based on the speed rating of the OEM tires they ship with. Motorcycle have been speed limited for at least a decade to 300km/hr to try and cut down on amateurs trying to join the 200MPH club (which seems irrelevant after joining the 300MPH club any way)

    There was likely a lot of internal debate over this topic. The delicate balancing act between price-point, feature set, and cost. I'm sure it needs the amount of processing power they've put in it.

    I'm still going to be keeping an eye on it. It's promising to be an amazing stills camera upgrade. I would be in a rush to get one if it could reliably do the marketed times or if it was truly thermal throttled ; then accessories like the Peltier cooler Tilta announced would actually be of some benefit (even though the IHS on the silicon is pretty far from any high thermal conductivity pieces).

    It's actually the cool off times that bother me more than the recording times. I have experimented a lot with cooling silicon, and it really shouldn't retain heat for as long as real world limiting has shown, unless some part of the heat dissipation was designed to thermally insulate instead of conduct.
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    there is already a firmware update for the R5 and it improves the recording times

    https://www.cined.com/canon-eos-r5-f...-1-0-released/
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    Canon EOS R5 Firmware v1.10 Overheating Tests and Review


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    Canon 1.10 firmware update
    https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/p...loads-firmware



    Canon R5 Firmware 1.1 - Is the overheating fixed?



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    Did CANON FIX the EOS R5 OVERHEATING?! (Firmware 1.1.0 REVIEW)


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    Stabilization Shootout: Sony A7S III vs Canon EOS R5 vs Panasonic S1H


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    English translated article

    https://www.translatetheweb.com/?ref...sonic-S1H.html





    Canon EOS R5: 8K RAW, Skintones, LOG&LUT, Autofocus, Stabilization


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    English translated article

    https://www.translatetheweb.com/?ref...---Teil-1.html

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    This is kinda controversial but I'll post it. If a moderator deems this a problem just delete the post.
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    My Canon EOS R5 recording 8K video 50 minutes straight


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    Article showing what he did.
    https://www.eoshd.com/news/this-is-m...ideo-evidence/


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    Anyone else kind of blown away by this footage hand held from a 3800.00 camera?







    QUOTE=rand thompson;1909292]Stabilization Shootout: Sony A7S III vs Canon EOS R5 vs Panasonic S1H


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    https://www.translatetheweb.com/?ref...sonic-S1H.html





    Canon EOS R5: 8K RAW, Skintones, LOG&LUT, Autofocus, Stabilization


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    https://www.translatetheweb.com/?ref...---Teil-1.html

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