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    By the way if anyone wants to try color grading and play with monochrome I got some of the shots here:

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/iur6mhn2r...TGL56Ogra?dl=0

    I can also upload more if you guys want :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodrigo Violante View Post
    Usually does filters work when you come from Color and transform to BW, here is 100% Monochrome, but honestly if you have any guide I will gladly explore since Monochrome definitely is a challenge to grade.
    Here's how Silver Efex looks like:

    https://iftimestoodstill.net/2013/10/10/concentration/

    This one was definitely taken with the Leica M Monochrom (CCD):

    https://iftimestoodstill.net/2013/07/22/batman-batman/

    I'm thinking of trying it myself... maybe. I shoot JPEG so I don't need it - however, I sometimes shoot RAW for insurance in case the JPEG is off, so maybe I should look into it.

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    This is beautiful work, Rodrigo! Everything works together to support the tone. My favorite shots are the overhead looking directly down at the waves breaking on shore and the tail breaking the surface of the ocean-- so beautiful the way the shimmering water rolls off the tail in slow motion!

    My sense is that perhaps where Karim sees room for improvement is in the shots that are completely underwater, where a lot of the image is naturally in midtone grey. I think it looks good, but do feel that a little tweaking of the contrast curve might tease out some contrast within that midrange and give it some more sense of depth, increase the impression of sharpness. Your images from above the water already have more contrast, so it could also bring the underwater stuff a little closer in tonal range (though it makes sense that they would feel like separate visual worlds). Something to play with, if you like.
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    Beautiful video Rodrigo, thanks for sharing.

    I like the grade as it is, but went off in another direction with it anyway, just to see...

    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/8058/zIbl7i.jpg
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4506/dMknvV.jpg
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3189/oRnWOc.jpg

    Can't really see it properly in these compressed-for-web pictures, but there's a nice grain-like noise you can get with that sensor, in addition to the crazy smooth and clean look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Les Hillis View Post
    Beautiful video Rodrigo, thanks for sharing.

    I like the grade as it is, but went off in another direction with it anyway, just to see...

    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img921/8058/zIbl7i.jpg
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/4506/dMknvV.jpg
    https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3189/oRnWOc.jpg

    Can't really see it properly in these compressed-for-web pictures, but there's a nice grain-like noise you can get with that sensor, in addition to the crazy smooth and clean look.

    Yeah maybe when it comes to BW I just love the clean ultra resolution that's why I went that route. When there is good visibility it actually can look awesome:

    https://vimeo.com/359985273
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    I remember that shark video, that was nuts. Don't remember seeing the colour version though, that looks cool too - https://vimeo.com/359904786

    I think with 'nature' video's, like all genre's, you'd have to have a good reason to risk alienating your audience with a look that doesn't fit their expectations. The clean, high detail look makes sense.

    Trying to think now though, based on that grade I did, how to fit a humpback-whale sequence into a gritty b&w film-noir detective movie...
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    Must have been a fantastic experience. I only seen humpbacks from the dive boat, never got to swim with them. And even that was something I will never forget.

    B&W camera is such a cool option. I think this looks great. Personally I really wanted to shoot something with the monochrome. But I always chicken out and shot in color and then grade black and white as yes, then its far more easy to separate the image and alter contrast etc from using the color channels. Shoot monochrome is way more balls to the wall no doubt. Next time someone comes with a BW project I hope I have the guts needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Björn Benckert View Post
    Must have been a fantastic experience. I only seen humpbacks from the dive boat, never got to swim with them. And even that was something I will never forget.

    B&W camera is such a cool option. I think this looks great. Personally I really wanted to shoot something with the monochrome. But I always chicken out and shot in color and then grade black and white as yes, then its far more easy to separate the image and alter contrast etc from using the color channels. Shoot monochrome is way more balls to the wall no doubt. Next time someone comes with a BW project I hope I have the guts needed.
    All I can say its totally worth it and beautiful. I just love it!
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    I had a go applying a Silver Efex filter to one of the frames. I chose Tri-X, a very small amount of grain (I turned the Hard setting up to maximum), and I also turned Structure all the way up to 100. I didn't change contrast or curves. I exported it to maximum quality JPEG at full size (7168 × 3024):



    If anyone is curious, I will download one of the video files, extract a bunch of frames, process them in a batch, then recombine them. Well, eventually.

    You'll note that I left some shadow detail (compare this frame to Rodrigo's final grade in the video, at 1:17. I don't guarantee that this will look better in motion, but I am so far satisfied with the Tri-X filter. Better than nothing IMHO.

    Your best bet would be a film-out to 65mm 5222. If I were a crypto millionaire... ;-)
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    Rodrigo - Enjoyed this on the Book of Face, but just wanted to say here, lovely work.
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