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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    You will have plenty of time after the announcement of the DSCM and the release of Scarlet to decide what you want to do. My bet is that you will want both... :-)

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    The funny thing is, we don't have to agree to the bet for you to win, assuming you wanted us to bet $3000 for the scarlet and the TBA price of the DSMC

    From here on out for me, I'll give myself the option of buying one last Nikon body and maybe a lens or two before the year is out. Then it's save my pennies for DSMC. I've already got my Scarlet fund just about ready to go.
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    To me a stills SLR is for stills and a video camera is for video just like a cellphone is to make calls and a camera is to take pictures.

    Thst is my personal opinion.

    But I just don't see why people are making a big hoo haa about these cameras having video? It is kind of funny my first digital camera was a Sony DSC P32, it had video functions and recorded 640 x 480. Which did not bother me as I owned a seperate video camera. I'm not that guy that wants it all rolled into one device.

    Again I'm not pissing on anyones battery I just want to know why the sudden rush to have video on DSLR's? Why not have a seperate camera ie Scarlet to do the job properly?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Grant Harvey View Post
    To me a stills SLR is for stills and a video camera is for video just like a cellphone is to make calls and a camera is to take pictures.

    Thst is my personal opinion.

    But I just don't see why people are making a big hoo haa about these cameras having video? It is kind of funny my first digital camera was a Sony DSC P32, it had video functions and recorded 640 x 480. Which did not bother me as I owned a seperate video camera. I'm not that guy that wants it all rolled into one device.

    Again I'm not pissing on anyones battery I just want to know why the sudden rush to have video on DSLR's? Why not have a seperate camera ie Scarlet to do the job properly?
    At some point motion will converge with stills... just not yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Nelson View Post
    I have no doubt you can make an amazing DSLR, I'm really curious how you solve the lens mount issue. My guess is you'll make it completely interchangeable, perhaps defaulting to a 'Red mount' and then alternately taking in Nikon, Canon EF, etc. But can you do good autofocus? People have so much invested in glass that binds them to Nikon or Canon. You must free them! :-D
    I'm really curious about the lens issue too. It seems to me that a mirror and shutter are kind of silly in a video camera, which could mean rangefinder sized lenses. That might even give you enough room to add canon/nikon/pentax autofocus adapters.

    Anyway I'll just have to wait and see. I'm hoping for something revolutionary, but within my budget.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    At some point motion will converge with stills... just not yet.

    Jim
    No doubt.

    Im just wondering why? Is it because it sells more cameras to people ie a business decision? Is that what people want it and you are making sure you give the best before everyone else at a better price?


    Honest questions. :bleh:
     

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    Hi Jim,

    glad to catch you on a talkative day...

    from the first post I gather that the dsmc will be equipped with the monstro (i. e. RED's 3rd generation sensor)

    sorry about the endless 'reading between the lines', but there's nothing left for us to do except waiting (and hoping, but you guys have made this side of waiting pretty unexciting in the past...)
     

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    I made two bets at IBC
    THE FCS/RAW workflow would be demoed
    RAW editing in iMovie (most likely with baked metadata) when Scarlet is released.
    I'll add hybridcam solutions in iPhoto within a year, with limited RAW controlls.

    @ IBC there were REDs all over the show floors and everyone were eager to demo their workflows in progress.

    @ NAB this will pretty much be... eh... resolved... I guess.
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    I went to buy a D90. It was sold out and there is a long waiting list at $1300 for body alone. This item is selling faster than a hot cake in stores.
    The salesman mentioned the new Sony 28MP camera in the pipeline, with live view and video without skew. I forgot if he mentioned full frame.
    I would like to know when the DSMC will be released and what will be the price for body and what lenses will it use?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    I have to say that I am very surprised that these "big guys" would release a camera that shoots "motion" with this kind of defect. It sounds really good on paper, but many will actually buy these cameras and believe that you can shoot motion with them.

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    That's what warranty is for, isn't it? :ranting2:
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    I'm a little worried too Jim.

    Will this program make my 4 RED's, My proposed 4 Scarlets and 4 Epics and all my PL mounted, RED, Cooke, Arri and Ziess lenses worthless when everyone starts running around shooting great TV content, AD's etc in 1080p from a relatively cheap stills SLR...

    I know the worlds changing and RED has to chase or lead the game, But it does make you think twice about purchasing a camera package that you probably wont need in 12 months time ...... unless your shooting a movie.
    A lot of us have invested big in RED and are now thinking not too.
    My 35mm Arri's lasted 8 to 10 years before it got retired into the back room courtesy of you guys.

    Just thinking out loud mate.

    Still a RED FAN & Still love ya work.

    But would love a future proof response..... please.:umm:
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