I would say it's character is like that of the Zeiss Ultraprimes, neutral, sharp, even, cool toned, and maybe a bit clinical. That's just where you start - the rest of the distance is up to the DP. Obviously you can light and filter your way in many different directions.
I agree my Bokeh test is lacking... Maybe a lucky someone who's taken delivery of their lens could pick up the ball and do some urban night exteriors ? It would be much more relevant than what I've posted.
It looks like at 32mm Red lens is softer in center. Do you think it's the zoom curve(doesn't hold focus well while zooming) or just the performance @32mm ?
Jacek Zakowicz, OptiTek
Overall, I like the cooler color rendition of the RED lens better, sometimes I find my Cooke to be a bit too "yellow". Not to mention the better field illumination on the RED, it's a bit sharper / cleaner, etc.. But it's a new design, the 18-100 design is around 20 years old. I really want to get my hands on the 18-85 and give it a workout myself.
Matt, thanks for the nice lens test.
But I always compare lenses with women.
Not always the most beautiful and expensive women models are the best girls (especially in sex, for example).
I have a huge experience with that (issue) and always have got the best and most exciting results just with an ordinary women.
That is the reason I like an ordinary lenses that still lenses at value can provide in a wide range.
RED, Cooke, Angenieux, Ultra Primes, Master Primes, Panavision Primo's,...
all of them can give you a beautiful pictures but also
an ordinary Nikkor's, Leica's, Canon's, Olympus's, Sigma's,...
can give you extraordinary picture in a way that you
are enough "professional" to get it out of them
(all that tricks are at DP's/Cinematographer's hands).
Red 18-85 vs. Cooke 18-100 nice two "girls' but I get enough with my
"dirty" and ordinary still zoom lens Canon EF-S 17-85mm 1:4-5.6 IS USM
Of course you get all of them on (your) RED if you want risk a bit and have enough :) courage .
Have a look once more, nothing scientific, just an average Joe's RED user life and its dirty test:
Canon EF-S 17-85mm 1:4-5.6 IS USM real life lens test
Thanks to Matt and MJ for bringing the Cooke and putting our new 18 to 85 Red lens to the test. We will be shooting with the new lens this weekend and will update this thread with the results.
The lens fits our Vocas and the Chroziel Matte box just fine and we will do vignette tests with 4x5.6 filters on Monday. The follow focus is another story through... neither the older style Chrozeil or their newer Follow Focus are compatible with the lens. We are looking at what factory mods are available and will update you when we learn more. We will also check with other models and manufactures to see what is optimal. Bummer that nothing we have in house works as is.
As Matt said, we have two of these puppies and they are available for rent with or without the RED camera. Send a private message or contact us through http://www.videoresources.com
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