Flash again

[SF Geek]

I just wanted to say once again that I'm most interested in a flash recording device for the red camera. I'm sure that the Red Drive will be able to handle a fair amount of shock, but I don't want to worry about skips and head crashes when I'm shooting an expensive setup. I don't mind having an extra person to swap and dump flash drives. I know that the Redflash is going to be made but I'm worried that it's not going to be ready by the time the camera ships. I understand that technologies are changing, but the same can be said of hard drives. We don't have any specs of the Redflash and we do of the Red Drive. What I'm asking is that the there be a choice of Red recording media when the camera ships.

Thanks.

[Ivan D. Young]

to just speak in general, there are four types of flash drives out there in 32 Gb capacities. Sandisk just released theirs and they claim that they will have a 64 Gb dirve out later in the year. I think that getting a Reddrive should be quite doable. The price for the Sandisk solid state drive is around $600. hope that helps.

[Shawn Nelson]

As I understand it, RedFlash is part of the Red body itself (comes with your core package) as an empty bay then you can buy the drive. So I believe that RedFlash is shipping at the same time.

[Ivan D. Young]

I should also mention that most of these drives are in 1.8" laptop formfactor. One benefit for Red is that Microsoft has instituted the use of hybrid drives for 2007 and Windows Vista, which means in a few months there will be lots of Solid State Drives getting made.(hybrid drives are drives that have Flash memory and a platter to store data.):)

[Akcelik]

good news for those interested in flash drive solution. from $169 for 16gb and aprox $500-$600 for 64gb, even cheaper in bulk!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/r...-169/#comments

[MikeCurtis]

Akcelik - the catch to beware of is data rates for these things - don't forget, 4K@30p is about 35 MB/sec plus audio and metadata.

[Graeme Nattress]

Remember data rates are not yet fixed in stone. Although we said 27MB/s for 4k 24p, that was back at IBC, and I've been working on codec improvements since then that either mean better quality at those rates, or lower rates and same quality. Or lower rates and better quality :-)

[Nick Shaw]

Remember data rates are not yet fixed in stone. Although we said 27MB/s for 4k 24p, that was back at IBC, and I've been working on codec improvements since then that either mean better quality at those rates, or lower rates and same quality. Or lower rates and better quality :-)

How about higher rates and even better quality if people want to? Or are you sufficiently confident on the law of diminishing returns that you don't think anyone would ever need to go any higher?

Nick

[Graeme Nattress]

Well, we can look at that, but we're allready getting such good quality it's hard to see how it could be made usefully better, and higher data rates might not really given any added benefit to the image. Profiling data rates is something that we're still on with.

Graeme

[Nick Shaw]

I'm more interested in the possibilities of higher data rates for using REDCODE as an editing codec than in camera. Have you tested multi generation REDCODE RGB?

Nick