RED 4k to Quantel iQ Pablo

[Todd Jaspers]

Hey All, I am working with a startup that is going to be doing finishing/di/color grading for INDIE films, the facility is built around the Quantel 4k Pablo.

We also have a Kona3 that is going to be used for conforming RED media to then be moved over to the Quantel. Few things...

The Pablo can do 4k, but the storage is a big issue, so it is more advantageous to do grading/filmout in 2k.

If you are going to film out with the 2k or take it to HD, doesn't down-converting to 2k DPX make sense?? 2k is totally adequate when doing 35mm film out. The latitude will be fine, and we'll be able to media manage a lot better.

4k Acquisition makes sense, but finishing at 2k make just as much sense right??

I have a million things to figure out, but I would love to talk to anyone, since there are only like 3 Pablo iQ's on the west coast, gonna take the RED workflow through its faces soon..

Would love to get a discussion going..

-T

-T

[David Didato]

would love to discuss with you as we are looking at acquiring a 4K pablo. PM me.

[Charles Angus]

I'm not sure I understand what the KONA is for, are you laying off to tape before grading? Because that's probably not the best way to go...

2k DPX would probably be a good solution.

[Todd Jaspers]

I'm not sure I understand what the KONA is for, are you laying off to tape before grading? Because that's probably not the best way to go...

2k DPX would probably be a good solution.

No, hahaha. That would be a horrible idea, but no, Kona3 is for conforming. Wwe use that station to online RED files, either as high res HD or 2K. So we don't have the iQ bothered with needless stuff. iQ can conform doing AAF, but saves us a step when relinking the AAF, cause the media will then be local.

[Chris Parker]

from what i hear, native .r3d support in the pablo is coming VERY SOON.....

[markh]

Hi Todd and Chris

Quantel does now support direct conform of red files - you don't need to go through any intermediate step.

There's a white paepr on the quantel website that goes through the details.

http://www.quantel.com/repository/fi..._14thfinal.pdf

Also you can drop me a line direct

mark.horton@quantel.com

[Todd Jaspers]

Thanks Mark,

Couple Questions.

The Quality of the .r3d conform looks great, but it also looks like it is going to tie up a stations resources. A high end iQ does .r3d to DPX about 1/3 realtime.

Are you going to offer the ability to import .r3d on software based licenses? Say you have a Qeffects or Q IO license on a standard PC, so that PC can be importing .r3d and you don't have to have your main iQ bogged up with .r3d to DPX conforming??

Thanks.

[markh]

Hi Todd

The way to this today without tying up a Pablo or iQ (or eQ) would be through a Quantel Max assist station on a genepool. Some folks are also thinking about dailes through Max.

However, the software idea is interesting too and something to think about.

Good discussions.

[Ed van der Kruijssen]

Hi Mark,

You're starting to be a real Forum Tiger..

I have another question concerning importing R3D in IQ. If I read your whitepaper I get the impression that Quantel developed their own resizer. Is this resizer based on the SDK of RED and if so how can this make a difference with the one of RED based on the same SDK?

all the best

Ed

[markh]

Hi Ed

It's our own resizer and there is another thread where this was discussed. One obvious thing you might want to do is resize to 2K or HD or SD either for the project itself or for dailes.
As you've probabaly already worked out, on a project you can also use resolution coexistence to mix other kinds of footage into a red project (or even mix different red footages on a timeline).

We must share a Duval sometime :-)