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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Williams View Post
    Hi Andrew,

    If you get arrested, a non USA resident will have problems getting a visa & are not elligable under the visa exemption programme.

    Stephen
    It is a question or the answer?
    I am US Citizen, and I am using top consultants when I ship the equipment.
    In US if you act under advice of top consultants or lawyers and you prove that you did all in your power to comply with the law, it is not much they can do to the individual in such a case. In US they don’t care if my equipment does comply with European Electrical standard and my European consultant did advise us to split the high voltage from low voltage components to make approval easy. So I don’t see any problem here.

    US will not arrest you that you want to take RED out of the country to Europe even if the equipment may not comply with all electrical approval there.

    Stephen, I don’t know where are you located but the best is if you call a good import broker and you talk to him what can be done so you will not be arrested for bringing RED through the border:-)
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    Well, I may be naive, but I don't think you have to be to worry to end up behind bars for bringing a camera. For me it's more about tax...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JNAD View Post
    Well, I may be naive, but I don't think you have to be to worry to end up behind bars for bringing a camera. For me it's more about tax...
    Hi,

    In many (not all) jurisdictions tax & customs duty evasion is a criminal offence, the amount of tax & duties involved are not small change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    It is a question or the answer?
    I am US Citizen,
    Hi Andrew,

    I was just pointing out a problem that could occur to an EU citizen importing a camera to the EEC, who then wished to travel in the USA.

    Clearly it does not apply in your case.

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    Stephen, we are talking about European Electrical approval here and compliance with the approval. Where did you take this Tax and Duties from?
    Also in US you do not pay outgoing tax or duties that I know off.

    Yes, picking it up yourself from RED and taking it back to Europe will be the best options for people that are wary about the process.
    You can also wait and get feedback from RED or other people, what was done or should be done once the shipment to Europe will start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Williams View Post
    Hi Andrew,

    I was just pointing out a problem that could occur to an EU citizen importing a camera to the EEC, who then wished to travel in the USA.

    Clearly it does not apply in your case.

    Stephen
    When EU Citizen will take camera in some non compliant way and bring it to his country US will not even know or care what commercial regulations he didn’t comply with.
    He will not have any trouble to travel back to US or have any problem with visa even if he didn’t pay any taxes in his country of origin. However I presume the tax guys in his country will be on his case hunting him down:-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Williams View Post
    Hi,

    In many (not all) jurisdictions tax & customs duty evasion is a criminal offence, the amount of tax & duties involved are not small change.

    Stephen
    Come on - of course it is a criminal offfense

    but

    If you on your outgoing bring som gear for a gig in LA, and on your return add up some more gear, what is the risk to get f**ked up in the custom. None. As said before, on my trips (many), no one never shown any interest in me lovely cameras.

    I think the hardest task is to get the Red on board as carry on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew View Post
    He will not have any trouble to travel back to US or have any problem with visa even if he didn’t pay any taxes in his country of origin. However I presume the tax guys in his country will be on his case hunting him down:-)
    Hi Andrew,

    When an alien enters the USA a form has to be filled in, which has a number of questions:-

    Have you EVER been arrested, even if no charges were brought...

    Have you ever been convicted of a felony.

    I have a feeling how those questions are answered could effect your chances of gaining entry.

    The taxes issue & how to declare the camera came up earlier in this thread, I think the 2 issues could to be addressed at the time of import.

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    Don’t you have a free duties taxes exemption for few hundred dollars when you stay one or two weeks away from your countries?
    I used to travel a lot between Canada and US and both countries have $$$ exemption on items brought back. I guess if you put your RED apart in too its primal components and go to visit your aunt very often you can bring the whole piece legally and compliantly back home? Seriously though, call DHL and ask them what will be the duties on professional digital camera.
    http://www.dhl.co.uk/publish/gb/en.high.html
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    As a manufacturer we sell a great percentage of our products into the EU and yes, a CE mark is required for a product to be imported for resale. Products imported for personal use (which a business use that excludes resale is classified as) are not required to have CE markings.

    Getting a CE mark is tedious, this is not an overly difficult process to navigate, but there are costs involved (time and monetary). There are other issues such as compliance with the ROHS directive that have an impact on a number of manufacturing processes.
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