Rode ntg-3 and red one

[argyris tsepelikas]

Hello everyone,
Does anyone use this mic with red one new audio board?
Is it ok? any problems?
I tested it with sony pd170 and panasonic 100A, it was fine, but not working with red. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

[Mennovandijk]

Working just fine here...

[argyris tsepelikas]

Working just fine here...

Thanks a lot Mennovandijk.

[Jeff Kilgroe]

The NTG-3 would be a very good choice for use with RED, or any other camera needing a good shotgun mic at a good price. You will want the upgraded audio board in your RED to make proper use of this mic over phantom power, otherwise you will need a separate battery power adapter or other external power source.

[Guy Cochran]

It's best to go through a mixer first if possible. I had a chance to test the RODE NTG-3 outdoor and indoor in this example http://vimeo.com/1977907
The feed was direct into a Panasonic HPX500. No mixer. After getting a Sound Devices 302 field mixer and hearing the difference, I'd say that is the best way to go.

-Guy

[argyris tsepelikas]

Thank you guys,
very helpful.

[Brian J.M. Rytel]

The feed was direct into a Panasonic HPX500. No mixer. After getting a Sound Devices 302 field mixer and hearing the difference, I'd say that is the best way to go.

-Guy

This may be true practically, but I'll hand you the possible reason.

First, the pre-amp on your mixer likely has increased headroom, lower noise, and probably a larger dynamic range than the stock RED (I am unsure however of the precise specifications of either).

Second, depending on the cord-length used, and the mini-XLR adapter, the signal will degrade before it gets to the pre-amp, or there could be attenuation or an impedance problem.

Third, the mixer might offer cleaner Phantom than the camera, for a number of reasons (battery, voltage regulation circuitry).

And if I think of anything else I'll let you know.

[Brian J.M. Rytel]

I have gone direct into Panasonic pre-amps before, and they really aren't that good. Panasonic doesn't have much Pro-Audio experience like Sony, and even Sony's products are mid to mid-high quality (especially on their video products).

Sending a line signal into the camera probably alleviated the problem of Panasonic's pre-amp, which is why it sounded better. That being said, with the new audio board, the difference between the line-fed and RED should be smaller, however I'd wager that running the signal through a $1,300 mixer will still yield a slightly better signal.

[Kevin Halverson]

...That being said, with the new audio board, the difference between the line-fed and RED should be smaller, however I'd wager that running the signal through a $1,300 mixer will still yield a slightly better signal.

You might be surprised how expensive of upstream device would be required to better the new audio board.

By the way, glad to see another Fullerton'ite on this site.:shifty:

[Brian J.M. Rytel]

Having not had the opportunity to use the new RED board, I'll take your word for it and await the day I do. On that note...

Do you have a RED One with the new audio board? If so we should arrange a sampling (ack, can't breath, bad, terrible pun, falls on floor).

While RED is trying not to give away all of their secrets, I often wish that specifications for parts like the audioboard were available. And I mean of course in greater detail then 48V phantom, 48khz ADCs, and (8? or 12? db headroom, no quotes on these numbers) which doesn't actually tell me that much.