The big choice: Epic S35 or FF35...

[Leo Ticheli]

At first blush the trade in choice for me was obviously the Epic S35; I need the high frame rates and use PL Mount lenses.

Now I'm not so sure that the Epic FF35 is not the better choice because of the Monstro sensor with it's promised 13+ stops of DR, but only if the windowed sensor for PL lens coverage will yield the same DR.

Also, are there any other disadvantages to using the FF35 with PL lenses?

Can anyone at Red shed light on this? Since the Epic FF35 is quite a bit more expensive, I'd like to weigh the difference in my planning.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo

[Andrae Palmer]

Also, are there any other disadvantages to using the FF35 with PL lenses?

Good question I'm now looking at the FF35 has my upgrade path too and wondering the same..

[cinemano]

I know.. all these choices are mind boggling.. now that the Scarlet has a lens mount option i cant even decide between scarlet or EPIC buaah wonder it the 5K scarlet has lower quality to the 5K epic?? they have the same sensor no?

[Andrae Palmer]

I know.. all these choices are mind boggling.. now that the Scarlet has a lens mount option i cant even decide between scarlet or EPIC buaah wonder it the 5K scarlet has lower quality to the 5K epic?? they have the same sensor no?

Just lower frame rates from what Jim posted. More and more the low end Epic does not seem like a viable option for me. Same mysterium sensor, 11 stops instead of 13, lower resolution, not full frame.... screw that its a Scarlet on steroids.

[JohnF]

It appears to be that EPICs have improved data rates=less compression=improved picture.

Though a S35 windowed EPIC FF35 appears to give a slightly lower resolution when running a 30x15 PL window than the EPIC S35 (ATM).

JohnF

[Mark Pugh]

Just lower frame rates from what Jim posted. More and more the low end Epic does not seem like a viable option for me. Same mysterium sensor, 11 stops instead of 13, lower resolution, not full frame.... screw that its a Scarlet on steroids.

Actually the lower-end epic will have higher resolution for a given sensor area, as it's pixels are smaller - 5.4 microns, as opposed to 6 microns for the monstro models.

[Andrae Palmer]

will have higher resolution for a given sensor area

I guess you are right but not higher resolution over all. The Scarlet is 24MP and the wimpy Epic is 13.8MP. The Scarlet FF35 is 36 x 24mm and the wimpy Epic is 30x15mm. The pixel dimensions for the wimpy Epic are 5120 x 2700 and the Scarlet is 6000 x 4000.

[Emery Wells]

At first blush the trade in choice for me was obviously the Epic S35; I need the high frame rates and use PL Mount lenses.

Now I'm not so sure that the Epic FF35 is not the better choice because of the Monstro sensor with it's promised 13+ stops of DR, but only if the windowed sensor for PL lens coverage will yield the same DR.

Also, are there any other disadvantages to using the FF35 with PL lenses?

Can anyone at Red shed light on this? Since the Epic FF35 is quite a bit more expensive, I'd like to weigh the difference in my planning.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo

Why would DR change when using a windowed portion of the sensor?

[Harva Raj]

my pure speculation is, after the mysterium sensor in red one in 2007-2008, red's plan for 2009 is the mysterium x sensor, and for 2010 is the monstro sensor. (i think) the monstro sensor doesn't even exist ..... the spects are subjected to change.. and red will test and select the best and suitable sensor for digital filmmaking from range of sensor from the same company and just name that sensor as monstro..

the FF35 epic and scarlet will only be out april/may 2010 around NAB (my pure guess)
...so we have a lot of time...


you can use anamorphic lens and carrion LCD to unsqueeze and monitor the squeezed footage...


Good (anamorphic) shooting and best regards,

sky1walker

[Mark Pugh]

Does anyone know - will the Epics be allowed to run at Redcode 42?