Small Ergonomic Feature Request

[Daniel García]

I've been thinking about the stills style handgrip... its design may be perfect for stills mode, but nobody has been entirely convinced by its usability for motion. It's one of the first things people criticize of the new video DSLRs. Why should RED repeat their mistakes?

As an aside, in the famous exploded view:

...can some explain to me what the second, horizontally mounted handgrip is there for?

On the other hand, when I think of a handgrip designed for video that's been highly reviewed, I think of the EX1's rotable one. It allows you to change from high to normal to low mode of operation easily.

I think that RED should consider a version of this design for the DMSC system, if not as a substitution to their handgrip design, at least as an alternative. It should be robust, and easy to lock and unlock from a position.

[Stuart English]

The Grip is an accessory, so it if does not work for your specific application, then you don't have to mount it.

[Daniel García]

Not quite the answer I was expecting... I guess I shouldn't have mentioned the taboo company here as an example :(

[Evin Grant]

The bottom grip is for shooting vertical in stills mode.

BTW I hate the EX1 grip, it's too wonky and off balance.

[Jannard]

This is a completely modular system. Pick only what you want. If enough people scream bloody murder (two people do not count as "enough"), we will listen. We will obviously be adding to the accessory list over time.

Jim

[Daniel García]

Wow, never even thought of shooting a still with that monster rig. Also couldn't understand its presence in many proposed "motion" rigs. I guess it's time for a mindset change.
I know the EX1 is off balance, but I was thinking along Stu's post in his blog, Pictures and Clarity, about the importance or ergonomy and many other factors before a 6K sensor. A camera that doesn't get between you and the picture, a camera that adapts to the situation. A grip that rotates and adapts to your shooting position seems like a small step towards that objective.

Thank you for your answer, Mr Jannard. I'm not screaming bloody murder nor trying to sound harsh :) Just making my suggestion, if there is still time.

[DaveT]

I know the EX1 is off balance, but I was thinking along Stu's post in his blog, Pictures and Clarity, about the importance or ergonomy and many other factors before a 6K sensor. A camera that doesn't get between you and the picture, a camera that adapts to the situation. A grip that rotates and adapts to your shooting position seems like a small step towards that objective.

The interesting thing about this system is that components should be able to slide around, or be attached at a verity of points to allow novel rigs, or to improve balance, or to separate components into multiple rigs hooked together, or 3d, or bullet time.

[zak forrest]

Sweet idea, Dave.

I'm sure that has already crossed Red's mind..

[liquidigital]

I for one am so excited about the modularity. I think the RED team has done an unbelievable job, and I can foresee a real shift in the industry once these products hit the market. Regarding accessories, I'm really interested to see what a RED Flash unit will look like/ how it will mount.

[Mathew Mackereth]

The modular approach is exciting... I can't wait - the only decision is which brain....

but wondering... I think the shoulder-rest would go some way toward Hand-held-ish ergonomics, but for smaller set-ups - would it be possible to design a different, less SLR-like version of the RED handle that allows us to balance the camera with the hand in an upright position and the wrist straight?
Like the zoom rocker/handle on an ENG lens or a handycam-style small form camera... The current-DSLR style design is great for stability if holding it up for a single shot, but to hold the camera like that for an extended period of time... ouch..

For 2/3 inch versions - the ability to configure scarlet in a small form factor handycam-style handle option would be popular i'm sure... for those not wanting to expand to the shoulder style system...

perhaps this option already exists but i'm somehow not putting the pieces together correctly.... maybe it is as simple as putting a battery and remote unit in line with the brain and attaching a strap.... hmmm...