New RR v3.6.0 renders to all DNxHD. What times do you get?

[akis]

New RR v3.6.0 can render to specific DNxHD bitrates.
I get about 1:3.5 for DNxHD36 QTs and about 1:1 when importing them to Avid.
So that's a total 1:4.5 instead of the 1:7 I usually got when importing QTref directly to MC.
Thanks RED team for that!

[Deanan]

Great!

[Andrew McCarrick]

Now the question is... does that include metadata (timecode, ect.) so we can do Offline to Online?

[Deanan]

Now the question is... does that include metadata (timecode, ect.) so we can do Offline to Online?

MC doesn't take the timecode from the QTs so you still need to generate an ALE. You can do that with MetaCheater or REDrushes.

For any of the 720P DNxHD formats, don't use RR for the ALEs. MC needs special timecode conversion which metacheater does properly.

[Andrew McCarrick]

MC doesn't take the timecode from the QTs so you still need to generate an ALE. You can do that with MetaCheater or REDrushes.

For any of the 720P DNxHD formats, don't use RR for the ALEs. MC needs special timecode conversion which metacheater does properly.

Right, and this what's holding me back from shooting with RED. I don't want to have to do these ALEs, just to get the footage into MC.

I'm waiting until I can get a clean export from REDCine to directly import to MC, being ready to edit imediately (no ALE, no batch import) and then move straight to another editor for the Online.

[Deanan]

Right, and this what's holding me back from shooting with RED. I don't want to have to do these ALEs, just to get the footage into MC.

I'm waiting until I can get a clean export from REDCine to directly import to MC, being ready to edit imediately (no ALE, no batch import) and then move straight to another editor for the Online.

That requires direct transcoding to MXF which Avid is working directly.

[akis]

Right, and this what's holding me back from shooting with RED. I don't want to have to do these ALEs, just to get the footage into MC.

I'm waiting until I can get a clean export from REDCine to directly import to MC, being ready to edit imediately (no ALE, no batch import) and then move straight to another editor for the Online.

I am not sure that you can have all metadata inside MXF. I believe an ALE will always be necessary. Metafuze currently creates an ALE when transcoding dpx to DNxHD.
Anyway the current(updated) workflow, is very similar to a film workflow (and it should take about the same time):

Film: Telecine to videotape, export ALE --> import ALE to MC, batch digitize.
Red: Redrushes makes DNx36 quicktimes plus ALE --> import ALE to MC, batch import.

[Andrew McCarrick]

I am not sure that you can have all metadata inside MXF. I believe an ALE will always be necessary. Metafuze currently creates an ALE when transcoding dpx to DNxHD.
Anyway the current(updated) workflow, is very similar to a film workflow:

Film: Telecine to videotape, export ALE --> import ALE to MC, batch digitize.
Red: Redrushes makes DNx36 quicktimes plus ALE --> import ALE to MC, batch import.

MetaFuze is MAC only right?

[akis]

No. Metafuze is PC only.

[Andrew McCarrick]

No. Metafuze is PC only.

Okay. It's just I really don't see the point of all of these extra damn steps. It's such a pain in the ass. Especially since I'll be Acting, Directing, and Editing this film... and I want to be editing every night after we're done shooting.

I'll just end up back logged I guess. Logging footage from Day One on Day One, Editing footage from day one and logging footage from day two on day two, ect.

(I apologize to the Original Poster for stealing the thread.)