Jim is clearly just pulling our legs.
But in case this dream actually will come true then I think the real breakthrough will not be the cameras themselves but the workflow RED will design for them. But... how?
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11-17-2008, 07:45 PM
Jim is clearly just pulling our legs.
But in case this dream actually will come true then I think the real breakthrough will not be the cameras themselves but the workflow RED will design for them. But... how?
11-17-2008, 07:47 PM
The workflow is coming together already.
offline edit: Avid has demoed editing in 3D.
online edit: Quantel, Scratch and Speedgrade can online in 3D today.
3D cg & vfx: Maya supports 3D today
2D compositing: Nuke supports 3D today.
Personally I got by with Cinema 4D and After Effects last year for Hannah Montana but it was a tad cumbersome. Onlining in Quantel was fun though...
BTW, you don't have to be 3D all the way. For Hannah Montana they edited in Media Composer in 2D for the offline and I did my graphics in 2D until later on.
Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
11-17-2008, 08:04 PM
The Foundry Nuke Ocula!
http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/pkg_over...C-99A9BAFE2850
$10K
11-17-2008, 10:22 PM
Lies is a strong word to use.
11-17-2008, 10:57 PM
Yeah, 4K is a lie too. And 28k is an insult! Hehe.
No, it's just the next logical step and I'm glad they thought about it. Now would be the time to explore what the Red workflow could do for 3D.
11-18-2008, 12:37 AM
There are several stereo 3d red rigs out there that are in use and have been for a while.Originally Posted by Lalli-Oni
11-18-2008, 12:51 AM
Just as Arri has never developed film stock, I do not think it is RED´s duty to get the workflow sorted. And, As ChipG has said, people like Geoff Boyle have already shot 3D feature films on RED One. At NAB there were several vendors showing off their solutions for 3D and RED.
RED should concentrate on making awesome cameras, and let post production suppliers fine tune the work flow options.
11-18-2008, 02:34 AM
All you need to do to edit 3D stereo is to make 16bit TIF files with REDCINE then use a graphics program in batch mode to combine the right and left frames into "Over-Under" or "Side by Side" so that you have one frame image for each set of frames, you can split them later if you need to for projection.
My CAD programs support many stereo 3D formats, if you have a viewing hood for your monitor the over-under format works well for wide screen images, you can view them in full color and motion, a hood with Achromatic lenses and front surface mirrors is better than shutter glasses since there is no ghost image.
If you make side by side for crossed eyes viewing you do not need any viewing device to see 3D and you can edit on any system that supports odd ratio images, like mine... or you can letter box the frames to a ratio your editor supports and extract the images from the letter box later if needed.
11-18-2008, 12:59 PM
The progress of 3D seems to be a lie I mean. Definitely didn't think it was so far in the making, at least not used in more than a handful of places. At least this technology hasn't got the publicity it deserves.
11-19-2008, 12:55 AM
In 2009 at least 4 major features are coming out in 3D.
I just spent 16 months working on one of them.
Lies?...tell Jim Cameron and Vince Pace that comment.
Be careful with posting comments without doing your homework.
It will only help to discredit your future postings.
The technology is already available. The one thing that the new 3D design that RED has rendered cannot do is Close-ups.
PACE already has a RED rig that utilizes a mirror-setup to achieve the
Interocular distance one needs to emulate the eye distance along with the convergence of the lenses for close-up work.
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