Real frame rates...

[Ariana]

REDuser has 20% nutjobs. Broad spectrum nutjobs from the super tech weenies like dancad and joofa to the non-techies like me.

[Leaf Baimbridge]

I remember hearing this once from a customer service training course: 10% of the population is crazy.

Only 10%?

[Stephen Limkin]

Jim, I'm pretty new to the forums, in fact I don't own a RED yet... but I will. Take heart, you're doing a great job.

For far too long other companies have been trickle feeding technology advancements, knowing they could milk the end user due to a lack of competition in the marketplace. You have lifted and dropped the bar in so many ways, delivered what no one else was prepared to (i'm sure they have the tech) and at a price in reach for a much wider consumer base.

For me, I will be buying what I need and know will serve me 90% of the time and as for the rest... I'll hire from someone who invested in that technology option.

At the end of the day it's all about the story and how well it's told... through the shared vision of the Director and Producer, the actors, the eye of the DOP, and the creative team.

[Tom Lowe]

Let's not pile on. Jim has said his piece about the requests to restore 3K@60fps on FF35 Scarlet, and that's the end of it.

But keep in mind that basically the exact same "band" of people were also the ones crusading in the Epic forum for the better part of this year for "Vista Vision" FF35 Epic and "Medium Format" and IMAX Red cameras. At the time, some people dismissed this as nothing but crazy talk.... but they're not saying that anymore.

[Ryan Booker]

@Jannard

The 'problem' is that you've brought something most people have never even dreamed of almost within reach. That price point tricks the mind into thinking it's competing with a 5D + Handicam.

It is difficult to fathom that you are actually giving them a 5D + a $300,000 cinematic camera.

[Joseph Ward]

Let's not pile on. Jim has said his piece about the requests to restore 3K@60fps on FF35 Scarlet, and that's the end of it.

But keep in mind that basically the exact same "band" of people were also the ones crusading in the Epic forum for the better part of this year for "Vista Vision" FF35 Epic and "Medium Format" and IMAX Red cameras. At the time, some people dismissed this as nothing but crazy talk.... but they're not saying that anymore.

I agree. I think its just the timing because there is nothing wrong with some discussions or asking questions,etc. I realize I should not get into some other peoples conversations, aka Cedrics and Jims, even though this is a public forum and I was trying to make a joke. May all of us including, Jim and me, just chill and enjoy this crazy ride. Viva la Redvolucion!

[(= Andrew =)]

Then, someone else (who has no idea what can or can't be done) says, "of course they can, but they are won't because they are protecting their EPIC"... or some other like statement.


Jim

Sorry:waaa:

[Jared Caldwell]

Now we are finally OK with the concept that not everyone can afford RED. No matter what we do.

Jim

Not to stir anything up (because we all know that there is enough of this going around), but I really think that everyone can afford RED.

I am at the bottom rung (a poor college student), and there is definitely a way for me to save up for a $3750 starter Scarlet and pay my bills with my $10/hour job (even though I am hoping to save more for an FF35).

The way that your products are priced really does give most everyone an opportunity. Each brain is professional, and each brain has specific functions. A 2/3" fixed Scarlet may not have every feature a 617 Epic has, but I will still be able to achieve professional results. This is unlike any competitor out there.

If I buy a low end Sony, there is no upward mobility to their professional line (something like an F23). With the DSMC system, you start off with professional quality. As your skills and productions grow, your money will as well. This system is the only camera system I have seen that has upward mobility. Though I may not be able to purchase a 617 on day one, I will surely be able to afford some sort of professional brain that will be a means to get there.

I really do believe Red is for everyone.

I am not going to tell people what to do or say, that isn't my place. Just remember to look at the big picture.

Don't stop striving for the highest in offering supportive, constructive feedback, but keep things in perspective please. These are the best of times for us filmmakers. We are the ones who are winning! :}

[(= Andrew =)]

that was moving

i applaud you

do you make bumper stickers?

just kidding- i am in his exact same position except i'm going to borrow a little bit from my father and have a garage sale

[Simon Dean]

Some people need perspective. In the UK a Sony HDW-F900R is around £43,000 - yes that's GBP! No high frame rates, only HD res. No upgrade possible, ever. Timelapse optional, slow shutter optional.
If you make any money in video at all I think there's a camera to suit in the RED range. If you're a stills person ONLY that's not quite the same, but if you do stills as well as video then you're laughing.