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  1. #1 My perfect module 
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    Ok, I'll take Jarred's invitation and describe my perfect module, the GPIO module.

    The module allows remote control. But, not wireless and not any type of remote control. It is more suitable for underwater and many other remote applications such as helicopter, crane, etc...

    The module has a bunch of addressable GPIO ports. Just about any function can be assigned and wired to a microswitch (digital input) or a 5k Pot (analogue Input). An adjustment of an analogue input shows the current value on the screen overlay temporarily when the value is changed. Functions such as REC, DELETE NG (yes!), Zoom 1:1, POWER ON/OFF, etc.. can be triggered using those GPIO ports.

    How is it different to RedMote? It is a wired solution, it is assaignable, and requires 3rd party triggers and knobs to function.

    How important is it for me to have one of those? $4-$5k is on the table.
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  2. #2 remote 
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    For many many moons I have been asking for some kind of remote for the R1 or to simply publish the protocol so we could make our own.

    Your version would be just as good and simpler to implement for the user. Ironically, all you are really needing is to parallel the switches/buttons already on the camera.

    Another nice capability would be to turn the camera power on and off remotely.
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    Jarred I do not have a perfect module at this time, but I WOULD like the IO module to have the audio video ports angled either towards the back of the camera, or down. Please do not let them stick straight out.

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    One module I think is doable if it is specialised, is purely a wireless I/O module with a couple of good antennas on it.

    This module's sole function is to transmit a variety of data, from the mundane right through to live video out (copied from viewfinder stream with or without guides etc) as a high speed bitstream transmitter, whose companion receiver (battery operable) can decode and re-route the incoming data to whichever output it belongs to. The receiver would have at least one HD-SDI out and some data output such as USB or LAN for non image related streaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Leeming View Post
    One module I think is doable if it is specialised, is purely a wireless I/O module with a couple of good antennas on it.

    This module's sole function is to transmit a variety of data, from the mundane right through to live video out (copied from viewfinder stream with or without guides etc) as a high speed bitstream transmitter, whose companion receiver (battery operable) can decode and re-route the incoming data to whichever output it belongs to. The receiver would have at least one HD-SDI out and some data output such as USB or LAN for non image related streaming.

    HTH Red Team, have a wonderful New Year's Day!

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    This is a good one.

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    I would like to see a "Pro Audio Module" that has multiple I/O, pots, monitoring and control functions either on the module or a separate control surface that is tethered, or preferably wireless. Essentially a full blown audio mixer that can be mounted in-line with other camera modules on or off the camera. This would be great for ENG use and lots of non hardlined EFP productions, especially with smaller crews or limited space, single operator or remote operation scenarios.

    I also second Pawel's request. A control module or full control functions on the camera accessible via USB or other easily interfaced connector. Need to control everything from power on/off to all other controllable functions, including lens functions for electronic lenses. Not only useful for underwater, but for any form of remote mounted, remote control scenario.

    How about a mirrored-media module? Would be an ENG / EFP godsend... I don't know what the full story is behind that 128GB RED Mag shown in one or two of the renders, but a module that can hold two of those and provide either sequential recording for long record times or provide mirrored recording to create duplicate copies at the time of record would be awesome. Camera crew could shoot to one RED Mag and have their master copy while handing over copy #2 instantly to a broadcaster or news agency. Which also leads to one more question about REDCODE....

    Any chance in the near future or with the upcoming cameras, that original REDCODE files can be encoded or stamped with a watermark or digital fingerprint of some kind so it can be verified what camera shot the footage?
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    I would like a variation on Jeff's request, but a little more straight forward. How about a module that features a unislot to take a wireless reciever.

    This is a very useful item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kilgroe View Post
    Any chance in the near future or with the upcoming cameras, that original REDCODE files can be encoded or stamped with a watermark or digital fingerprint of some kind so it can be verified what camera shot the footage?
    This is major!
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  9. #9 Secondary REDMag 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Kilgroe View Post
    How about a mirrored-media module? Would be an ENG / EFP godsend... I don't know what the full story is behind that 128GB RED Mag shown in one or two of the renders, but a module that can hold two of those and provide either sequential recording for long record times or provide mirrored recording to create duplicate copies at the time of record would be awesome...
    Great idea, Jeff.

    I also brought this up a little while ago in the "Another Taste" thread:
    http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...=23905&page=16

    I think the ability to have a second REDMag Module that could record simultaneously as a backup, would be great. BUT the more valuable feature, I believe, would be the ability to have the second REDMag recording in a different format. (not a different frame rate or anything that needs changes made at the sensor, of course).

    This would be HUGE for Feature work, as well as many other types of productions that want to shoot in resolutions higher than HD for their Master, and still have instant lower-res versions available to view.

    Imagine being on-set, and having "Rushes" come straight off the Camera on a separate REDMag in 1080p scaled RGB, while you have the 4K+ version available to backup and send to Editorial on another REDMag.

    I'm not sure if the brain of an EPIC or Scarlet would be able to handle this additional processing, but perhaps a specialized module could have an onboard co-processor (mini-brain) if needed. It could be a bit pricey, but I think for certain projects, it would more than pay for itself in time saved.

    Panasonic has an accessory for the AJ-HPX series of Cameras (P2) called the AJ-YAX800G Proxy Encode Card.

    From the Panasonic website:

    "It allows AJ-HPX Cameras to record MPEG4 proxy (low-resolution) data onto the P2 card or an SD/SDHC Memory Card along with full-resolution data. This can be used for quick viewing of dailies with timecode and it's low bit-rate provides easy transmission over wired and wireless networks. It's also perfect for enhancing news production and simplifying long format program editing, including documentaries and reality television. The three levels of proxy video available are 1.5 Mbps, 768 kbps and 196 kbps which contain AV data, time code, metadata, and other control information."


    Not bad for $1200.

    Similar to this concept, the second REDMag would allow the Camera operator to decide which quality/format is being additionally recorded, from a full-res identical backup or 1080p scaled RGB version, all the way down to a low res proxy used for sending across networks quickly without needing too much storage room.

    I'm sure there is plenty of technical issues that I am not aware of in how the inner workings of EPIC of Scarlet operate, and this may just not be possible. But I figured it was definitely worth adding to the list here.

    Even if it were just possible on EPIC, I think there would be pretty good demand for it. I'd be curious to hear what others think. Is this something you could use?
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    The mirrored-media/extended recording module would be a big time saver. I was thinking to add this request, but I thought I already exhausted my Santa vouchers and Jeff beat me to it. I second the idea. Essential? Not. But, so bloody nice to have
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