No NAB for RED...

[David Birdy]

Ok you got footage and photos. How do you know it's from a Scarlet and not just from a Red One or a still camera? Details? You can't shoot video with words and 3d renders. Hey, I'm just being the doubting Thomas. Let's see a camera we can buy (excluding the Red One camera) and use and I'll shut up. Personally, I'd love to see a Scarlet with all its glory, but there needs to be a pissed off consumer or two here to put a little urgency to their promises. Frankly, if Red doesn't get it into gear, then someone else will come along and swipe more customers. It's already happened. The clock is ticking. The meter's running. There are deadlines in all business. Jannard says that "everything in life changes", including consumer's attention span. My "mouth" is speaking what others fear to say. Their decision not to go to NAB is of little importance. NAB is expensive and perhaps not worth the effort. Their decision not to start selling or taking orders on a working camera near the promised date is bad business, especially when such hype has been built up over the past several months. Personally, I can't see Jannard going to work tomarrow and not saying just what I've said here.

WOW way too negative man.. you truly know not what you say!!

WAIT A SECOND Mr. Stewart....did you attend the Sundance film festival in 2007 with a piece of chalk in your hand?

Your comments show your level of sophistication....

Dave

[Bang WOW Bang]

WOW way too negative man.. you truly know not what you say!!

WAIT A SECOND Mr. Stewart....did you attend the Sundance film festival in 2007 with a piece of chalk in your hand?

Your comments show your level of sophistication....

Dave

Dave

I will be at HKFilmart 2009 for the whole next week with our D21 to make decent approved Chiinese Government Films. RED ? I have but not approved yet.
Cheers,
Stewart
HKG - CHINA

[Christian Munoz D]

Guys! guys! guys! not good idea to pay attention to this kind of posts...You are giving him the 15 min of fame. Move on!

Here there is an excelent news about the release of Deep Red underwater housing for Red One from Gates.

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...1209#post91209

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

Ok you got footage and photos. How do you know it's from a Scarlet and not just from a Red One or a still camera?

An "its a scam" - post!

Just realised how much I´ve missed them......

Jochen

[David Stewart]

I know lots of guys who are very good at what they do, but don't do it for a living. I'm shooting a rock band that does this very thing. I don't do this for a living, but I do an OK job at it and get paid for it. I don't even advertise because I would be too busy - word of mouth only. I enjoy the creativity and challenge of videography. But what you have here is a camera that has potential to allow you to do great things, but also is within the reach of many people's pocketbook. I didn't go to the Sundance Film Festival. I just ski there. I want to buy a nice HD camera, but most of what I see right now is not found on just one camera. I can't go out buying a bunch of cameras and have it be obsolete a few months later. I have one of those already. If Red is trying to appeal to just a professional market, why then the seemingly low price? Promised date? I do recall reading here that NAB was the day orders were going to be taken for one version of the Scarlet due this Summer.

[Jannard]

I know lots of guys who are very good at what they do, but don't do it for a living. I'm shooting a rock band that does this very thing. I don't do this for a living, but I do an OK job at it and get paid for it. I don't even advertise because I would be too busy - word of mouth only. I enjoy the creativity and challenge of videography. But what you have here is a camera that has potential to allow you to do great things, but also is within the reach of many people's pocketbook. I didn't go to the Sundance Film Festival. I just ski there. I want to buy a nice HD camera, but most of what I see right now is not found on just one camera. I can't go out buying a bunch of cameras and have it be obsolete a few months later. I have one of those already. If Red is trying to appeal to just a professional market, why then the seemingly low price? Promised date? I do recall reading here that NAB was the day orders were going to be taken for one version of the Scarlet due this Summer.

We are a bit different because we "think out loud". We have been quick to say that things "can and will change"... actually from the beginning. We give our best estimate of what's happening. If something changes, we say so. Sometimes it is good news... like more features and lower prices. Sometimes it is bad news... like delays. We have asked if people want us to change the methodology and have heard a resounding "NO". And we can't take orders at NAB... because we won't be there. :-)

Jim

[David Stewart]

Ok. So should I buy another camera and not have the funds to buy yours later? I'll need two BTW. Not in too much of a hurry, but people are showing up with their consumer hd cams and it's annoying. Some show up with some P2 cams though. Fortunately, they can't shoot worth a crap and my editing is still impressive enough to keep the referrals coming - more than I want actually.

[Peter Lyons Collister, ASC]

Jim is correct when he says that his company "thinks out loud". By doing that he and RED open themselves up for excitement and frustration. But in this new era of 'transpanency' I welcome it.

I can wait for Epic and Scarlett. Wait long enough for Jim and the gang to make the best camera possible for the moment.

I shoot 35mm most of the time. But I also shoot RED. And I have shot with genesis when it is appropriate.

The fact that I will be able to turn my RED in for FULL trade-in is an amazingly new business model. If I bought a Prius for 25,000 and then 3 years later Toyota said that I could trade it in for a Camry (at 35,000) and get a full trade-in on my 25,000 what would you think.

Red One is not the perfect camera. No camera is perfect for every situation. But it worked for "Knowing". My camera just worked for a shot for "Book of Eli"

What is amazing is that Jim is solidly behind supporting us through all of this. I don't fear that RED will abandon us.

Peter

[Scott Roberts]

Is there a date / location posted for Red Day yet?