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    EPIC X FF 1080P: 1-60P better than Canon 5D MKII.

    If i correctly understood that the EPIC X FF 1080 means DOF of S35mm and 1 -60p. DOF we all like so mutch as a DoP.
    Is this correct?? NOT a part of the cmos will be used but a extract isn't?
    Let me know!

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    I presume it's a 1/4 scaled version of the QuadHD the camera would record. So the camera would be doing the downscaling on the fly to 1080p from 5k(ish). So yes you'd have the DOF of S35mm and quality wise I'd be shocked if it wasn't better than the Canon 5D MKII.

    However FF1080 on the FF35 or 645 epic might be different again since FF infers full frame and those two cameras have larger sensors you might have still camera sized 35mm which is bigger than S35 (With the FF35) and with 645 you'd have medium format sized footage being down converted in camera to 1080p.

    I presume Red have included it to open up the post pipeline for shooters who know for fact they are only ever going to need a 1080P finish. It may also allow them to record with less compression on the footage perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulClements View Post
    I presume it's a 1/4 scaled version of the QuadHD the camera would record. So the camera would be doing the downscaling on the fly to 1080p from 5k(ish). So yes you'd have the DOF of S35mm and quality wise I'd be shocked if it wasn't better than the Canon 5D MKII.

    However FF1080 on the FF35 or 645 epic might be different again since FF infers full frame and those two cameras have larger sensors you might have still camera sized 35mm which is bigger than S35 (With the FF35) and with 645 you'd have medium format sized footage being down converted in camera to 1080p.

    I presume Red have included it to open up the post pipeline for shooters who know for fact they are only ever going to need a 1080P finish. It may also allow them to record with less compression on the footage perhaps.

    Paul
    Hi Paul,

    That will explain the limit to 60P in hte EPIC X

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    comparing $2700 w/ $33,000.00 up up?.. :) :)
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    Apples to oranges.
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    I think if I see one more Canon 5D MkII post I'm going to vomit.

    Redcode 250, not compressed to crap h.264 mpeg movies.. get it now?

    I won't even go into the exposure controls on the darn thing.
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    of course it will be better
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    If it isn't exponentially better... we don't deserve to be in business. Did you really ask that question?

    100fps of REDCODE RAW (vs. 30fps only of some crappy codec), every possible format option you can imagine, modular lens mounts, real cinema modules, 1/20th the skew... I have to think you were joking. Right?

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    The 5D2 is starting to annoy me as well. Not because of the posts but because I've been trying to shoot with it this last week and aside from the fact that it won't do 24p, compact flash cards fill up a lot faster than Red Drives and the battery doesn't last long, the total lack of aperture, iso and shutter speed control make it more of a toy than a tool. I actually love my Red One more AFTER having owned the 5D2 for a bit and can only imagine how much more I'll love my EPIC on that fine day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael zaletel View Post
    compact flash cards fill up a lot faster than Red Drives and the battery doesn't last long
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    The 5D2 can literally shooting for DAYS on a couple of $90 32GB Transcend CF cards and a pocket full of tiny batteries. With the grip you can shoot for like 6 hours straight on two walnut-sized batteries. There are many reasons to diss the 5D2, but portability, startup time, power and recording media are not points the camera is weak on, in my opinion. In fact, I'm hoping Epic and Scarlet are similarly portable and convenient, to the extent that they can be, given the fact they are packing much, much more horsepower.
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