EPIC X FF 1080P: 1-60P better than Canon 5D MKII

[Zakaree Sandberg]

if your considering the 5d as your primary camera.. you probably shouldn't be in the same consideration category as an epic

[Roberto B]

The 5D2 can literally shooting for DAYS on a couple of $90 32GB Transcend CF cards and a pocket full of tiny batteries. With the grip you can shoot for like 6 hours straight on two walnut-sized batteries. There are many reasons to diss the 5D2, but portability, startup time, power and recording media are not points the camera is weak on, in my opinion. In fact, I'm hoping Epic and Scarlet are similarly portable and convenient, to the extent that they can be, given the fact they are are packing much, much more horsepower.

fair scope.. the more you post on what you know best the more we appreciate it..

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JJ.. you should take tom's viewpoint in consideration.. he's right now.

[Ariana]

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JJ.. you should take tom's viewpoint in consideration.. he's right now.

I would hope that JJ doesn't take into consideration badly sampled video, higher skew, and a tremendously overcompressed image all for the sake of cheap media and tiny batteries. That maybe fine for a DSLR with video tacked on as an afterthought, but PLEASE FOR GODSAKES do not go in that direction for Scarlet. We don't want you to go down to the loest common denominator, go all the way up!

[Roberto B]

read tom's post

[Roberto B]

btw.. the recent recordable media adds-on are less than FUD

[Ariana]

read tom's post

It's not an apples to apples comparison. $90 cards don't mean anything if I'm trying to get 5k motion at a low compression ratio. I don't want scarlet dumbed down just so I can shoot overcompressed video to cheap cards. It's more important to me personally that scarlet achieves the high quality it's aiming for rather than the low quality the 5d2 hits.

[Roberto B]

ok.. forget the $90 32gb cards.. even if you'll have more powerful media at that price in a short period of time.. yes.. no name media.. who cares?.. the hightech shouldn't work out as a church.

[Jannard]

I guess I forgot a few well-placed smiley faces thingies on my post. :-)

The 5DII does record to cheap media and has tiny batteries. And there are cameras that record motion and stills with cheaper media and tiny(er) batteries (and a worse image). The question isn't who has the tiny batteries, it is "where does professional to your level of satisfaction begin?". If the 5DII, an HVX, or 35mm film is what satisfies your requirement... there you go. But a compressed codec with lots of skew and no modularity to the system isn't OK for me. Good news is that everyone gets to decide for themselves.

[Joseph Ward]

Comparing Epics with anything below its price point is not worth comparing. Maybe the Scarlets would be better to compare, since it falls within prosumer ranges? Then again, nothing comes close as far as value. Only what products are out, I guess?

[Tom Lowe]

BTW, I was very clear in the fact that I was in NO WAY comparing the video that comes out of a 5D2 to any Red camera, especially not the DSMCs! I was simply responding to michael zaletel's claim that the batteries and CF cards run out too fast on the 5D2... which is the complete opposite of reality. Even if you completely trash the video capabilities and quality, you cannot deny the convenience of the camera in terms of recording media, startup time, battery life, plus the "stealth" factor of being able to shoot quickly and inconspicuously.

I am confident, based on all that Jim and Jarred have been saying, that DSMC will be moving in the direction of more portability, faster startup and setup times, longer battery life, etc. It's just the natural progression of technology.

The 5D2 has major, major problems, not the least of which is terrible moire-pattern artifacting, and some gruesome partial demosaicing artifacts caused by high-frequency patterns in water, brick walls, etc.