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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Darge View Post
    I have been using the 17-35 f/2.8 for quite sometime and although the focus pulling is a little bit of a pain, once you get used to it, you're alright.

    I use the 17-35 75% of the time because its so sharp, colors are great and its compact and covers me pretty well. I need to check out that 17-55 however, seems like a great lens for the money. Douglas, have you done any comparisons with the 17-35 VS. the 17-55?

    I just picked up that Tokina 11-16 and can already tell that it will become the new workhorse in my kit. Simply amazing clarity and 11mm is so much fun to have.

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    We're running similar kits. The Tokina is great. I'll be using it for a lot of stuff. If the 17-55 is sharper than the 17-35, it's not by much but you do gain the extended range which is why Doug loves it and why I contemplated selling the 17-35.
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    I don't have any lens comparisons, just some observations from the last shoot, on my 1440 x 900 monitor (which of course isn't all that HIGH def, really)

    I want to load build 17 so I can do the 1:1 pixel zoom thing and see what's what, maybe get a Putora chart and see how many lines, etc. To tell you the truth, I really go by the feel of the lens once I put it on the camera, and the 11-16 just looks like a gas. Great for POV stuff - I can already see shots inspired by RAISING ARIZONA, flying through the supermarket looking for disposable diapers . . .
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    For what it is worth, before I decided on either the 17-35mm or the 17-55mm Nikons, I had the opportunity to talk face to face to a Nikon USA lens technician at the Torrence facility, and I asked him which lens he thought was sharper and had better contrast. Without a pause, he said it was the 17-35mm. I am sure it varies some from lens to lens though. I chose the 17-35mm, but do miss the extra push the 17-55 affords.
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    "AF-S Zoom-NIKKOR 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED FF35 lens

    High-performance, ultra wide-angle zoom lens, perfect for candid photography
    and news photojournalism in challenging lighting conditions."


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    "AF-S DX Zoom-NIKKOR 17-55mm (25.5-82.5mm FF35) f/2.8G IF-ED (APS-C 1.5x-crop from FF35)

    This high-performance, wide-angle zoom is designed exclusively for use with Nikon’s DX-format,
    is fast and versatile for travel and portrait work."


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    "Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 PRO DX (APS-C Nikon 1.5x & Canon 1.6x crop from FF35).

    The new Tokina 11-16mm (16.5-24mm FF35) f/2.8 AT-X 116 PRO DX is an ultra-wide angle lens with a fast f/2.8 aperture for better
    photography in low-light situations. Many photojournalists consider having an f/2.8 aperture a must
    for any lens in their camera bag."


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    So AF-S DX Zoom-NIKKOR 17-55mm (25.5-82.5mm FF35) f/2.8G IF-ED is out.

    And the winner is AF-S Zoom-NIKKOR 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED FF35 auto and manual focus/iris lens.
    "There is no point in having sharp images when you've fuzzy ideas."
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    Dynamic range is, after all, the measurement between well saturation (photosite blowout) and noise floor.
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    From your link, Sanjin:
    17-55

    DX design enables a combination of wider angle-of-view with optical characteristics that are optimized for Nikon digital SLR camera sensors.
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    Nikon DX design produces a smaller image circle (the size of the image that is projected by the lens on to the sensor) enabling smaller lens diameter, lighter weight and optimal image quality from center-to edge-to-corner on the imag
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    Well someone should shoot some charts to see which one is the winner, I think.
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    If someone wants to loan me their 17-55, I will gladly do a test at my home. I have a little chart I can throw up, and I can do some quick real world dirty tests. I'll compare the 17-55's 50mm focal length up against the Zeiss 50 and I'll throw on the Tokina too.

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    Keep in mind the 17-35mm isn't as wide and costs about twice as much as the Tokina... I agree that it might be a better investment for a current ZF set but they are different beasts. Both would be perfect with a 28mm 35mm 50mm 85mm ZF set. And while neither are so long that you would freak over the focus ring they still can't compare to the ZF rings... ugh...

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    Ultimate 15mm FF35 still lens is



    Leica Super-Elmarit 15mm f/2.8 ASPH

    "Distortion is in general very well corrected and even per-
    sons at the edges of the image retain their normal body
    contours. (Ever looked at the elongated faces and bodies of
    persons when using a 12 mm or some other 15mm len-
    ses?). Architectural straight lines are straight lines with a
    just visible distortion in the outer zones of the image."


    but costs you "only" US $ 8,995.00 (B&HFVNYC) :) .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjin Jukic View Post
    Ultimate 15mm FF35 still lens is



    Leica Super-Elmarit 15mm f/2.8 ASPH

    "Distortion is in general very well corrected and even per-
    sons at the edges of the image retain their normal body
    contours. (Ever looked at the elongated faces and bodies of
    persons when using a 12 mm or some other 15mm len-
    ses?). Architectural straight lines are straight lines with a
    just visible distortion in the outer zones of the image."


    but costs you "only" US $ 8,995.00 (B&HFVNYC) :) .
    I've been on waiting lists for a used version for over a year now ... very hard to find used lens.. but the best 15mm ever, as most Leica lenses are.
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    How bad is the distortion on the Tokina 11-16mm?
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