practical tapeless workflow

[Adrian T.]

Have you guys heard of Drobo?
http://www.drobo.com/products_demo.aspx

Sounds pretty cool, except for the USB interface.

[Rob Lohman]

Looks interesting. No mention of speed though. Also prints in small letters that for over 2 TB you'll get a second volume. I'm wondering if they need USB to do the dynamic resizing of a volume thing.

[sbaechler]

I have a La Cie bigger disk and it fails at me from time to time. The drive just dissapears from the system and you have to restart the unit to make it come back. The eSata enclosure would be an interesting option. Does it have hardware RAID support?

[Chris Kenny]

The eSata enclosure would be an interesting option. Does it have hardware RAID support?

No, but with 4 and 8-core systems kicking around, software RAID isn't quite the burden it once was. And if you're on a Mac, when Leopard comes out you should be able to use ZFS, which is much more flexible and robust than any hardware RAID.

[Antoine Baumann]

I would think that you could do it a lot cheaper and simpler.

On set:

You could get four RedRAIDs, taking two to the set (5-6 hours recording time).

The other two are at the edit suite being transferred/archived/backed up. When the transfer is done, swap with the set drives. If the edit suite is a MacBook and some large RAID drives (as below), it could be portable, as long as you've got a power supply for the drives.

RED DRIVE are set up in RAID 0 mode, so it is quite risky. I will copy on set the data from the RED DRIVE to a dual Hard drives RAID 1 system and then take out each drives of the enclosure to sent on to the edit suite, and keeping one as backup.

I think CallDigit has nice product, and not more expensive than RED DRIVE.

antoine.

[Carlo Rho]

I was chatting with g-tech guys at NAB and their new G-SPEED eS, is up to 4TB, eSATA and apparently able to make 2 copies of the footage at the same time (RAID 0+1, 2 copies spletted in 2 drives each one).
It's the best solution I found at NAB for field back-up.
We've just to convince them to make a ruggerized version!

Carlo

[sbaechler]

This RAID system sounds very interesting. It's SATA based and comes with a PCI-Express RAID adapter. They advertise especially for HD editing. Check it out:
http://www.sonnettech.com/product/fusiond800raid.html

[Mark L. Pederson]

I'd never use Lacie in a production enviroment.. but thats just me. Had to many fail in the past. If your data is important use enterprise drives in a raid.


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I never use Lacie. Period. Wost enclosures on the planet. We run 100% of G-Tech drives and also use Gspeed XL 4 gig raids.

[Cail Young]

I never use Lacie. Period. Wost enclosures on the planet.

You ain't seen nothing, my friend. At least Lacie shells out for Oxford chipsets (right?). Some of the cheaper Prolific-based firewire drives will conflict with each other, so you can only use one at a time. Great!

[Fergus Meiklejohn]

I'm giving up on lacie and going g-tech from now on.
Each to their own of course, but I think one can be ott about data backup on set etc (Just because you can..). You can't backup film on-set, most people filming EFG capture onto tape then put the tapes in the hotel safe and backup when they get back to base.
So why should RED be different?