The Focus can support up to 18lbs of weight.
The Red is 7lbs. Is it possible that I can use this head for the camera or will the RED weigh more than 18lbs when fully loaded with batt/storage/rails/matte/FF/viewfinder/lens/lcd?
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01-15-2007, 01:42 PM
The Focus can support up to 18lbs of weight.
The Red is 7lbs. Is it possible that I can use this head for the camera or will the RED weigh more than 18lbs when fully loaded with batt/storage/rails/matte/FF/viewfinder/lens/lcd?
01-15-2007, 01:49 PM
film people normally prefer a bigger head. for a fully loaded RED, incl. lens I would suggest a OConnor 2060, or a Sachtler Cine 30...Originally Posted by Justin Anderson
01-15-2007, 02:00 PM
There's a big thread here on tripods already... I currently have the Cartoni Focus head myself and will be waiting until my RED arrives before I decide to change. If I do upgrade, I'm going O'Connor. I took a look at some last week (O'Connor, Sachtler and Miller). The O'Conner looks to be the best and all are about the same price. My second choice would probably be one of the larger Cartoni heads like the Gamma or Delta, but the O'Connor is still nicer for the same money and it looks like you could get away with the 1030 model, but the 2060 would be the best if you can budget for it... Then you never have to worry about overloading your head.
I think the Focus will work OK as long as you don't get too close to its weight limit with all your accessories.
01-15-2007, 03:11 PM
http://www.abelcine.com/store/produc...9&cat=0&page=1
It says the Focus has a payload capacity of 2.2 to 22 lbs.
http://www.cartoni.com/eng/focus.html
I, too, will be waiting for my RED before making any decision on tripod.
01-15-2007, 03:43 PM
uh...since the capacity goes up to 22lbs, does that mean I could use a setup that weights 22lbs and be just fine? :D
01-15-2007, 03:53 PM
Theoretically yes... But most people tend to think fluid heads perform best when not loaded to their maximum, but rather somewhere in the middle of their weight range. I would be a little nervous about placing a 20lb rig on a 22lb max tripod head. An accidental bump could add enough force to stress the head in some way. I feel that the Focus head is fairly well made, but it's not anything amazing and it does have limits.
I guess that's why we'll wait and see what happens when RED ships. I'm kinda thinking that my Focus head may just work OK... Im using it now with an HVX200 w/35mm adapter and Red Rock FF, matte box and rail system... I think RED will actually weigh the same or less because I won't have the added weight of the HVX200 lens and 35mm adapter in the mix.
Either way, I still don't have my REDservation # just yet... So I'm sure someone else will have this answer before I do.
01-15-2007, 03:56 PM
That's good to hear. How much does your rig way?
We've also got to consider battery and storage drive weight.
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Has anyone here worked with the Cartoni LASER? It has a limit of 25lbs and I was wondering how it handles.
01-15-2007, 04:03 PM
Hey guys.
How about posting in the original thread (A question of tripods...) on page 5. It is already quite long, and all this seems to fit there quite nicely.
Of course I am no moderator or anything, so feel free.
Yours Emmanuel
01-15-2007, 04:14 PM
sometimes you just need a fresh start....else people will start responding to statements from page 1 that were answered on page 3.
01-15-2007, 04:55 PM
For what it's worth here are my rather pathetic weight guesses including RED zoom & matte box with (heavy) swing away feature:
ITEM MAXIMUM
body - 8 lbs
zoom - 7 lbs
rail - 2 lbs
battery - 2 lbs
drive - 1.5 lbs
matte box - 4 lbs
follow focus - 1 lbs
EVF - 2.5 lbs
LCD 1 lbs
mic - 1 lbs
ALL 30 lbs
ITEM MINIMUM
body - 8 lbs
zoom - 5.5 lbs
rail - 1.5 lbs
battery - 1 lbs
drive - 0.5 lbs
matte box - 2 lbs
follow focus - 0.5 lbs
EVF - 2 lbs
LCD 0.5 lbs
mic - 0.5 lbs
ALL 22 lbs
AVERAGE MAX & MIN = 26 lbs
Note: edited to reflect new R1 body weight.
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