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    REDuser Sponsor Jay A. Kelley's Avatar
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    I think it's still possible to do this.

    Jim, Jarred, or whomever is doing this part of the system: I know the new module has 2 CF Card slots. I am ASSUMING this is for longer shooting times.

    I, like many others still do not feel electronic media is as robust as tape or film. So please, also consider a "clone mode" for the camera.

    Duing shooting please have a choice where we can capture the same shot to a hard drive, and CF Card, or 2 CF cards.

    If this is too much bandwidth, then conside a clone mode where the CF card dumps to the hard drive right after shooting the take.

    I believe this will protect us from a lot more errors during the shooting.

    Just a suggestion.

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    I actually have a lot of faith in CF recording. We've put probably 2000 cards through our camera, we've had 1 error which resulted from a kick-out, and we recovered the data. Film gets scratched more often than that.

    I dont want to be waiting for CF cards to deliver 250+ MB/s write times before I can shoot 100f/s at 5k on the epic, I'd be happy if one of the dual card slot options was stripped recording.

    Barring that, give the epic a large enough buffer for 5+ minutes of recording, which can then be written to the card at whatever speed is sustainable. This way we dont have to be waiting for our card write speed to catch up to our awesome future cameras.
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    I sorta like that buffer idea of yours... Much more than striped cards. How do you plan to get your data off the striped cards?

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    The only problems I've ever seen with CF cards, even the dirt cheap ones, is FAT corruptions. Just format your cards in camera before you use them, every time, and you're always good. Mostly, the data is still recoverable on the card if it happens, if it is precious enough.

    The cards themselves are very reliable. I've washed them with my clothes, kept them in my pockets in the rain. Let them dry, work as new. I never use the little plastic cases. People recover them from cameras that have been in the water for months, these things do not die. The physical failure rate is much, much, much lower than the chance of you shooting out of focus.

    The corruptions happened mostly on the early digicams which didn't properly indicate when they were writing to the cards and Windows 2000 users, who didn't know to eject them before physically disconnecting the reader. Lots of people still remember that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascal Scheffers View Post
    The only problems I've ever seen with CF cards, even the dirt cheap ones, is FAT corruptions. Just format your cards in camera before you use them, every time, and you're always good. Mostly, the data is still recoverable on the card if it happens, if it is precious enough.

    The cards themselves are very reliable. I've washed them with my clothes, kept them in my pockets in the rain. Let them dry, work as new. I never use the little plastic cases. People recover them from cameras that have been in the water for months, these things do not die. The physical failure rate is much, much, much lower than the chance of you shooting out of focus.
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    Very well said.

    "Everything in life changes... including our camera specs and delivery dates..."

    I sincerely hope that Red stays with he CF-Crad concept.

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