we pay +20% for low #red contract

[Rob Lohman]

for me , looks like ,red for the end of 2008 is what most are facing!

And you got this reliable info where?

[Leo Ticheli]

Are you freaking kidding? RED has been nothing if not honest and not promissing to delivery before they know they can is down rifht unique to the industry. Have you ever seen Apple, Microsoft, Avid, Sony, Panasonic, Canon, etc., etc., etc., even come close to this level of responcibility and customer respect? In case you are new to the industry and planet earth... "NO" is the correct answer.

No, I'm not kidding.

If you had actually read my posts, you would know that I've not accused Red of anything.

I said that refusing to service a product which had been sold to another party would be a bad business practice. I don't believe that is the case; should it turn out to be, I certainly stand by my statement.

By the way, I'm far from new to the planet or the business and I happen to find Apple, Panasonic, and Sony to be excellent in the customer service department. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for Avid and Microsoft, so we are in agreement there.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo

[beatniq]

"Strange. This thread is listed at the top of the REDUSER.NET section on RED's homepage."


yes it is, wonder why?
maybe my posting helps red to get a bit out of crossfire.

my posting shows, there is a buyer.

for me , looks like ,red for the end of 2008 is what most are facing!

picture it. and for me, even if the 1.cam gets deliverd at 2008 red has done a tremendous job.

but for some..thats too late for several reasons, personal, business schedule,budget.

I bet next you'll tell us that we never went to the moon, castro shot JFK, and the jews knew about 9/11...

[PeteCoggan]

And you got this reliable info where?

Sony exec on the RED Forum, run!

[Gavin Greenwalt]

How RED Forums organize topics.

Last topic to receive a reply goes to top.
Under that is the previous topic to have received a reply.

It's not some complicated google metric trying to assign worth. It's just the most up to date topic. So for instance... this post will put it back to the top until someone posts something on another topic.

It's not witchcraft.

[beatniq]

How RED Forums organize topics.

Last topic to receive a reply goes to top.
Under that is the previous topic to have received a reply.

Not really, but whatever...

Maybe it just takes longer to catch up, or it does so at varying intervals, so it seems more randomized to me.

[Steve Gibby]

True Gavin, with the additional observation that only the active threads on the main "RED One" forum are included on the RED home page list. The other RED User forum threads active are not represented there.

[Elijah Kelley]

Eleeahoo, chill.

I have not posted anything in regards to what people will do, could or should do with there camera after they receive it.

Of course people have every right to do what they want with the camera after purchase.



Jim has made it clear that RED reservations are Non-transferable. And Reduser is the house of RED.

That's why it's disrespectful.

A discussion that disrespects Jim, or Red is not appropriate here. People wanting to have that type of discussion should do it somewhere else.

Now, I've been following RED since December 2005... You might notice that I have Red #81 reserved. That means that I placed my order for Red on the very first day it was available.... Monday morning first day of Nab 2006.

Maybe I've been around here long enough to know what's up.

I would appreciate it if you could express your thoughts in a less adversary way.

Thanks.

Sam Duckerman,
And your point about being around means...? Adversarial? Are you an adult? You straight slam a guy about making an offer and I'm adversarial? Let the moderators moderate if your problem is policy but leave the "I'm a REDUSER OOGA OOGA" at home. People are curious and have work to get done. Next you'll be telling other Red One owners not to rent their camera to that guy because he uses sony or panasonic.

It's not that serious. I've made some of my living for the past eight shooting/producing/directing commercials and video programming but I'm not crazy enough to believe that Red is the end all and be all. Albeit I'm elated about the advent of this new technology being made available at this price point but I'm not a die hard that's ready to bash a guy for posting an offer. If you're not selling yours what's it to you?

Go and make a movie.

[Joe Aurili]

I'm still not clear on why buying the camera and selling it for a profit is pure evil, but buying the camera for rental and making a profit is fine...

[john4321]

sorry rob, .i said .."for me it looks like."
should be clear.

but i understand, nothing i should mention, but realisticly and with all the respect i have, to manage to deliver some tousends cameras this year, is not realistic at all. so for me most will face 2008. again only my mind.