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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Wild View Post
    Um...not on these boards. I've learned a lot around here...and it's cheap. The price is to just muddle through the posts you don't want to read...to find the nuggets.
    I agree 100%. I have learned as much here as I have in class.
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    hmmmm....one week of wages for a lifetime of RED knowledge?? Soooo worth it.

    Count me in.
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    True this site is a gold mine. And the people here are exceptionally helpful.

    I am speaking subjectively. For me a course like this would be the last piece of the puzzle. A huge hurdle would be removed by getting this hands on teaching.

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    Sounds promising, but I'd love to see something under the curriculum section.

    I'd be really interested to know to what extent this training will go to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince K View Post
    hmmmm....one week of wages for a lifetime of RED knowledge?? Soooo worth it.

    Count me in.
    I don't post often here, but actively follow the forums, and this statement about a lifetime of RED knowledge is false.

    It is impossible to learn enough about a piece of electronics in a week to last a lifetime.

    Electronics Always change. They obsolete themselves.

    Even with Jim's slogan of Obsolescence obsolete, things have still changed, things will always change (that's also a Jim guarantee).

    A few days of learning can be a great start, but a huge part of being knowledgeable about any electronics is keeping up with it DAILY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Gordon View Post
    I don't post often here, but actively follow the forums, and this statement about a lifetime of RED knowledge is false.

    It is impossible to learn enough about a piece of electronics in a week to last a lifetime.

    Electronics Always change. They obsolete themselves.

    Even with Jim's slogan of Obsolescence obsolete, things have still changed, things will always change (that's also a Jim guarantee).

    A few days of learning can be a great start, but a huge part of being knowledgeable about any electronics is keeping up with it DAILY.

    -Alan Gordon
    I was referring to the fact that for me, personally, it would be added knowledge that I can take with me and use on future gigs.
    I have worked with the R1 a number of times, but like DogDay had mentioned earlier, the course will only add to what I know now, and can only help me in the long run.
    That's something I can take with me and use over my lifetime.
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    Vince, the point that I would make is RED is positioning these classes as industry type classes. In other words, you'd better be a person regularly working with RED. It would take quite a few days of DI in this market to justify spending $1500 on the tech class.

    I don't want to whine too much...RED can charge what they want. But I think they are about double where they should be as far as pricing. With people who travel there, you're talking a $4000 expense for a week to learn stuff that (like the other person said and RED would probably admit in a different conversation) will be obsolete soon.

    I hope they reconsider their pricing. It's a no brainer for me right now. I'll take the $7500 for myself and 2 employees and put it towards the new lenses. See, RED gets my money anyways. :-)

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    All in all, I want to learn more about 4k RAW, and I see no one else offering this.
    I would hope, that after taking this workshop, I would get more work on RED gigs as I would be MORE knowledgeable than the next guy who didn't.
    I'm still very interested regardless of the price. If they bring it down, even better.
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    I agree that its a little pricey, heck, im going to have to fly for almost 20 hours to get to LA and then 20 hours back. Hoorah!

    I think if people are expecting to become an expert on the RED after a 3 day or 7 day course then they'll be disappointed. I think that is why the questionnaire is there, asking role, years in the biz, number of RED jobs worked on etc. Maybe the guys will be honest and tell you if you arent that suitable? Personally I look forward to learning how to trim the fat in our workflow and get some advice from the only real experts.....RED.

    Plus, I guess I can take the opportunity to take one of our R1's over with me for the audio upgrade. (or Epic swap if it coincides!) It would be a lot less stressful than watching a FEDEX man walking away with the camera in a cardboard box!
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    Ted,

    Can people like me who worked on more than 20 commercials and 5 feature films in India can help you out take the course forward to this part of the world?

    Any assistance from Red will serve professional approach for the above suggestion!
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